So let's hold our own little election. It doesn't matter if you are in the USA or a citizen.  I just want to see how WE transgender people feel about this.

Post a comment if you like.  BUT Pulease people... don't go after anyone else for their opinion.

Cindi

My transgendered issues have nothing to do with how I vote.


Sarah L.

I don't know if my trans-issues have anything to do with my voting preference or not. My experience will certainly form my inclination. This one I simply find unreasonable to vote any way other than I did in this poll.

Nichole

Given the shape of things, trans related issues are about #13 on my top ten things I vote on, or because of.  It's one of those 'having solved all other problems...." deals. 

And I'm not even looking for good.  I'd settle for 'less bad' at this point.

For me it's all about a real energy production plan.  If it were big enough, it could solve many of the economic problems.... sort of like FDR's New Deal.  But it would have to be massive.

Neither presidential candidate comes close to what I'd like to see in this arena. But it seems to me that Obama at least is willing to commit some substantial funding for alternative energy sources.

Cindi

You know Carter started all of that, and Reagan gutted it.  How much further ahead would we be now if we had not elected Republicans back then?

frist off thanks Cindi for the poll .  iam usa myself and  i know whom  iam voteing for . which is odd this election yr  cause i was able to

make my choice after i had looked and both plains of both the  canadates.  needless to say it was a no brainer. and when the debates

came and everything. that just proved to me even more with out any questions at all whom i will be voteing for. and normaly i dont

make this choice untill the last minit. and iam at the voteing place

This sounds ignorant, but is that all the choice? One pair or another pair?
True, we don't vote for the PM here so I spose even less choice, but still.

Quote from: Pica Pica on October 21, 2008, 06:47:28 PM
This sounds ignorant, but is that all the choice? One pair or another pair?
True, we don't vote for the PM here so I spose even less choice, but still.

Well, you can vote Nader.


And, since we have the electoral College, and I live in a state that is gauranteed blue - I may just lodge a protest vote for good ole Ralph.

If McCain manages to win NY by one vote, then I guess I'll just have to shoot myself, but I really doubt it.

Electoral college needs to go before the elections mean anything, what we have right now is 50 separate elections, and that requires the candidates spread themselves too thin and pay a disproportionate amount of attention to the rural areas because the big states are locked up.

So, we get platforms that are designed to cater to special local interests, rather then focused on the big issues, like the environment or healthcare.

I am a registered Republican only because it was more of a protest against Billy than anything else.  But I do not trust the republicans at all, especially with McCain and Palin leading the way.

In Oregon we already have our ballots and Yes I am voting for Obama/Biden.  After the election I will most likely change parties again, back to Democrat.

Everytime I see or hear Ralph Nader I'm reminded of this dialogue between Lara and Monsieur Komarovsky ( Rod Steiger) in the movie Doctor Zhivago.

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Komarovsky: [speaking of Pasha Antipov] Lara, I am determined to save you from a dreadful error. There are two kinds of men, and only two, and that young man is one kind. He is high-minded. He is pure. He is the kind of man that the world pretends to look up to and in fact despises. He is the kind of man who breeds unhappiness; particularly in women. Now, do you understand?

Oh yea, to quote another great writer, Mae West, When given a choice between 2 evils, I usually pick the one I haven't tried before.  Obama

I know Ralph doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell.

It's about keeping the Democrats honest.

Every vote they lose to the green party is a vote they need to court next election. It keeps them from drifting too far to the center.

Or it can help put the Republicans in office.......Again.

As a non-American, I normally find the US presidential elections boring, mainly as I dont understand the college voting system (and how someone can get the least votes % wise and win).

However, this year I have been reasonably interested in the whole process starting with the Obama / Clinton battle, the appointment of the two deadend vice presidents and the presidential debates.

Who will win ?, my money would be on Obama. America needs change and I cannot see that happening with McCain, but it will be close.

Ohhh and whats Joe Plumber got to do with it all?

Buffy

Ralph Nader? Forget that has-been. The actual Green Party candidate this year is former congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. Her running mate is Rosa Clemente. I actually like what these two women are saying, you can hear them sometimes on Democracy Now with Amy Goodman. If I lived in a state that was safely blue for Obama, I would vote for McKinney/Clemente. But I'm in Virginia which is teetering on the knife edge. So I'm voting for Obama because every Democratic vote counts here.

Quote from: Janet Lynn on October 21, 2008, 09:09:15 PM
Or it can help put the Republicans in office.......Again.

NY is a blue state. There is no way in hell it's going to anyone but Obama.

If my protest vote is the one that throws the election, I will personally fall on my knife.

Quote from: Pica Pica on October 21, 2008, 06:47:28 PM
This sounds ignorant, but is that all the choice? One pair or another pair?
True, we don't vote for the PM here so I spose even less choice, but still.

Sorry, that's the way us yankers play the game.  =K

Quote from: Buffy on October 21, 2008, 09:27:15 PM


Ohhh and whats Joe Plumber got to do with it all?

Buffy

Joe the plumber is just a symbol of the regular working class American.  McCain (i think i'm not 100% hehe) uses him to make connections to Obamas taxing I believe.  His whole argument was on the aspect of something like, take Joe the plumbers money and give it to Obama so he can disperse it, that sounds right. . . or something like that.

Don't hold me to any of this haha my mind can only hold so much information and it's at it's caps for right now :]

Hi!
     The electoral college process was created with a dual role in mind.  First it was intended to keep the population at large from voting a demagogue into office and throwing the republic away through "bread and circuses"  as happened in ancient rome, and secondly to allow for balance among the states within the Union.  I think it was also to allow the wealthy/educated segment of Colonial society to have a veto on the public election of chief magistrate.  It's not a bad scheme, but it was hijacked in the 1800's by the growing political party system.  Currently most states' party apparatus APPOINTS people to College positions, not my understanding of the intent.
     Anyways, I'm certainly voting the Obama ticket.  Living as I do right next to Wasilla, and recently in that ugly little burg, I can't concience voting the republican ticket.  I see way too much greed, denial, outright ignorance, and willful misgovernment, and willingness to abuse others for personal gain.  Besides, Ms. Palin barely passed Highschool at all, is abusive of power, having used her office to settle personal vendettas, made extremely poor choices in public spending (Wasilla has a new skate park and sports center paid for with funds the Federal government provided us to build a sewage treatment plant- um, we still don't have that),  and thinks she's been personally selected by God to spearhead the Endtimes.  *shudder*
     Nonetheless, She's personable, and remembers names and faces like nobody's buisness.  I guess that's something nice.
     If McCain chose her to run with him, then it was an appalling lack of judgement.  If people within his party forced her on him, then it suggests he is a puppet of unseen powers.  Either way, not good.
     Obama is human, so he has failings, but he seems intelligent and well intentioned, and willing to work hard.  He's been in the position of a poor person before and I think he has compassion for others.  How can that not be a good choice under any circumstances?
-Brianne
     

The electoral college process was created with a dual role in mind.  First it was intended to keep the population at large from voting a demagogue into office and throwing the republic away through "bread and circuses"  as happened in ancient rome, and secondly to allow for balance among the states within the Union.  I think it was also to allow the wealthy/educated segment of Colonial society to have a veto on the public election of chief magistrate.

No more calls, we have a winner.  Its not that the people elect the president, in fact, the states do, which is why its THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and not just America.