I'm a very introspective person, so I spend a lot of time thinking to myself and I've noticed my mind-voice typically sounds male and it disturbs me.

How do your mind-voices sound? Were they identical to your male voice? If so, have they changed as you transition and spend more time living as a woman?

Mine sounds more or less as my voice sounds to me, which is still deep for a woman but to high for a man. It raised as my voice raised.

My seems to go back and forth between male and female.  It mostly seems to depends on how upset I am getting or how emotional.  The most upset or emotional I am, the more likely it will be the male voice with that calming baritone father type of reassurance. If it is female I am have a pretty good day.

you know, i think we spend just way too much time worrying about being too male or too female or whatever.  the truth is, if you are a woman your internal voice is female...period.  whatever else it is, it's female, because it's your voice and you are female...it can't be any other.  you think like a female, praise God not like some stereotypical woman, you sound like the one woman that you are.

it's the same principle as appearance..."i know i look like a girl.  i know this because i look like me and i'm a girl."  it's just about internal acceptance...you are who you are and you aren't going to change that fundamenally...and i hope you don't want to.  we spend way too much time talking about being "who we are" and far too little time just being it.  it's all good.  God bless with...

My mindvoice is always my female voice.  I don't know why, but my mindvoice has always been female.....not my current  female voice, but always female.  The "narrator" in my mind when reading was always female.  Is that weird?


Bev

Quote from: Princess Katrina on October 18, 2008, 11:10:15 PM
I'm a very introspective person, so I spend a lot of time thinking to myself and I've noticed my mind-voice typically sounds male and it disturbs me.

How do your mind-voices sound? Were they identical to your male voice? If so, have they changed as you transition and spend more time living as a woman?

I kind of do too, but its only cause my day time voice is androgyous at best... I've never heard my girl self really so I have no idea how she really sounds... Just a general idea...

Oh, crap... I feel really freaky now.  My thoughts don't have a tone.  They're not even anything like a voice.  Are you all saying that when you think things, you hear your voice?  Like, with words and things?  I just sort of... think.  I can sort of do a voice, but it's more like an abstract stream of words without any sound at all.  When I write or talk, I don't think about what I'm actually saying, I just sort of squeeze something until it condenses into words & squirts out.  I don't know what I'm going to say from one word to the next.

Edit: I never really understood what people meant when they talked about thinking in a particular language.  I don't naturally think in language.

My mind's voice is still my physical voice, I guess cause I've been around my whole life using this voice I've been born with.

Quote from: Katie Leah on October 23, 2008, 12:08:13 AM
Oh, crap... I feel really freaky now.  My thoughts don't have a tone.  They're not even anything like a voice.  Are you all saying that when you think things, you hear your voice?  Like, with words and things?  I just sort of... think.  I can sort of do a voice, but it's more like an abstract stream of words without any sound at all.  When I write or talk, I don't think about what I'm actually saying, I just sort of squeeze something until it condenses into words & squirts out.  I don't know what I'm going to say from one word to the next.

Edit: I never really understood what people meant when they talked about thinking in a particular language.  I don't naturally think in language.

Relax....not that I'm anyone to be compared with as typical LOL....but I usually don't have a mind voice throughout the day. But sometimes. Always when I read, or write.


Bev

 I hear the same voice as I talk. I hate that!

My mind-voice is not my normal speaking voice. It is a little higher, very clear, and definitely feminine ...... now if she'd just stop LAUGHING! 

When I read, I just get a stream of words.  It's not anything like a voice.  Just the "idea" of one word at a time.  It's the same when I write.  Maybe it's an aspie thing?

Voice Training

The voice is very important at least just as important as your appearance if you are going  be credible to the folks you associate with everyday. I was lucky that I had a half way voice, I am only a small person so I never really had a very deep voice. the mode of exercises I used to bring my voice up to a higher feminine pitch I just did mostly by humming tunes to myself, I could also hum tunes no mater where I was without bringing much attention. Below is a you tube video of voice training, I liked it, I thought it was pretty good way to train your voice.

QuoteI just sort of... think.  I can sort of do a voice, but it's more like an abstract stream of words without any sound at all.  When I write or talk, I don't think about what I'm actually saying, I just sort of squeeze something until it condenses into words & squirts out.  I don't know what I'm going to say from one word to the next.

Edit: I never really understood what people meant when they talked about thinking in a particular language.  I don't naturally think in language.
Katie Leah

Yep, it's called auto writing or auto thoughts. Just comes without trying to think it out before hand. The only problem is that's it's to easy to loose people that way. I may have thought or fantasized in a female voice in early transition but to actually think thoughts in a voice I don't believe I have. the thoughts are just formed into consciousness then expressed thought the medium of the mouth into words.

Words come out in a female voice because I tuned voice to do so, so that it just comes naturally without consciously thinking about it. I can enjoy a good giggle fit session with the other girls and my giggles sound authentic enough that I actually can get them going into it as well. I love getting into giggle fits especially with my mate, the last she hears from me at night is me giggling and bugging her like a ten year old kid and the same in the morning.

Voice may vary from normal voice to rough or raspy depending sometimes on physical condition, like being tiered of just waking up in the morning to post nasal drip, or a cold symptom etc. 

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=s7qSJ19f_QU&feature=related

Cindy

i never made any attempt to "redo" my voice.  the truth is i think speaking in my own voice adds to my credibility among my peers.  i've heard enough of the "transvoice" to turn me off forever, it's so plastic it crinkles.

but then, i'm not into "passing" either.  i hated "passing" as a man and i, being a woman, feel no need to "pass" as female.  being real, being just who i am without reservation is the basis of my happiness and utility as a human being.   my experience has been that the less i try to impress others the more impressed they seem to be.

just the experience of one woman, may not work for all.

My "mind voice" is male..

Note; anything I post on this board are only suggestions as to what worked for me. I never implicated that it to be a guarantee it will work for anyone else. The best way to learn anything I found was to *note* different suggestions from different people and test them out for my own satisfaction. But other folks will usually find their own way to adjust to, or learn a certain new behaviour or personification using their own method getting there.

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Cindy

noted cindy.  and just the same for me.  though my methods diverge 180 degrees from yours, they are not intended to cast dispersions upon yours.  just like you, i say what's worked for me so that others may hear and consider...or just disregard as not practical.  you stated that a female sounding voice was important to "credibility" and i felt that another point of view on that might be called for here.  the opposite has been true for me, my uncensored voice has enhanced my credibility among those in my everyday life...or so i believe.  i guess it's according to what sort of credibility you are concerned with for yourself.  have a nice day.

Tanks I agree, Each and everyone of us will have a different opinion, understanding or perspective on any given proposition even on the same given fact we will all have a slightly different perspective on just what constitutes that one particular given fact. A multifaceted universe or the great illusion not with holding. I have a pretty good accumulation of singularly special thoughts and feelings.

My only desire is to pass on as much as I can of the experiences and knowledge I have accumulated through the years before that Cosmic Grey Hound bus comes to spirit me away to the next dimension.

Cindy

Quotei never made any attempt to "redo" my voice.  the truth is i think speaking in my own voice adds to my credibility among my peers.  i've heard enough of the "transvoice" to turn me off forever, it's so plastic it crinkles.

but then, i'm not into "passing" either.  i hated "passing" as a man and i, being a woman, feel no need to "pass" as female.  being real, being just who i am without reservation is the basis of my happiness and utility as a human being.   my experience has been that the less i try to impress others the more impressed they seem to be.

just the experience of one woman, may not work for all.

Is there such a thing as voice dysphoria too? I would never feel right using my male voice becuase that is not
what I feel inside and I despise my male voice as much as the rest of my body, or at least my body prior to HRT.

And I don't think anyone needs to resign themselves to  having a "transvoice". With enough effort and time I think
anyone can develop a passing and attractive voice. I think this may also be effected by age and sexual orientation.
A young TS (or any) who is not attached prior to transition and is attracted to men MUST change their voice to
ever have any hope of forming a relationship. If you have the self confidence to speak in a mans voice more power
to you.

As far as my mind voice, I never realized it but most of the time when I'm speaking out loud it's not male or female but always
very happy and sweet sounding, maybe reflecting what I usually feel on the inside. And I noticed that when I read
something it takes on the sound of what I think the character I'm reading would sound like. And when I type something like
this post, or an email or a business letter it always sounds female. Really cool and really odd that the mind works that way.

Amanda

I don't think of my "mind-voice" as particularly female, but it's certainly not male. Actually, my "mind voice" strongly informs how I hear my speaking voice; when I hear my own voice more objectively (for instance, recorded) it's a shock.

Amanda -- I have sung in various choirs for years, and the voice of a good soprano fills me with about as much envy as anything else can.