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Why is it always OLD guys that like the transwomen?

Started by Gracie Faise, November 14, 2008, 12:02:18 PM

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Gracie Faise

It seems like the overwhelming majority of admirers/->-bleeped-<-s are gentlemen of the older variety.

What the french is up with this toast?

EDIT: older meaning 30+ years old.
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joannatsf

What's old to you?  On the occasions I've done a personal ad I've gotten lot's of replies from men that were too young for me.  My cut off is 30 but 40+ is really my preference.
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Laura Eva B

Quote from: Gracie FAISE on November 14, 2008, 12:02:18 PM
It seems like the overwhelming majority of admirers/->-bleeped-<-s of gentlemen of the older variety.

->-bleeped-<-s are creeps ... why would anyone want to date a guy who is turned on because you are "trans" ... whatever his age ... ??? ...

Guess its more the older guys who have had to repressed their bi- or homosexuality, or their own CD, TG tendencies, and see dating a transwoman as a "safe" non-challenging outlet for their fantasies ?

I only go for straight guys who see me just as a woman, and would avoid "admirers" like the plague if I ever encountered them (but I never go to those kind of places or to TG dating sites).

Most guys who "come on" to me are at least 10 - 20 years younger than me, and they can be fun until you realise that they just have one thing on their mind ! 

And I think (especially if you are young yourself) "coming out" to a young guy is maybe more likely to draw an accepting response ?

Laura x
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Gracie Faise

Quote from: Laura Eva B on November 14, 2008, 12:48:29 PM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on November 14, 2008, 12:02:18 PM
It seems like the overwhelming majority of admirers/->-bleeped-<-s of gentlemen of the older variety.

->-bleeped-<-s are creeps ... why would anyone want to date a guy who is turned on because you are "trans" ... whatever his age ... ??? ...

Guess its more the older guys who have had to repressed their bi- or homosexuality, or their own CD, TG tendencies, and see dating a transwoman as a "safe" non-challenging outlet for their fantasies ?

I only go for straight guys who see me just as a woman, and would avoid "admirers" like the plague if I ever encountered them (but I never go to those kind of places or to TG dating sites).

Most guys who "come on" to me are at least 10 - 20 years younger than me, and they can be fun until you realise that they just have one thing on their mind ! 

And I think (especially if you are young yourself) "coming out" to a young guy is maybe more likely to draw an accepting response ?

Laura x


Actually the majority of admirers are just normal guys that have a thing for transgirls. No hidden gay or trans desires about themselves. It's about a 60/40 cut, 60% being actual normal guys, not closet cases.
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Gracie Faise

Quote from: Kiera on November 14, 2008, 12:58:37 PM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on November 14, 2008, 12:02:18 PM

It seems like the overwhelming majority of admirers/->-bleeped-<-s are gentlemen of the older variety.

Well thanks Gracie, that's certainly good to know seeing how I'm well over *achm* 30 . . .

Not being "in the market" myself could it be "younger transwomen" is all that is leftover!
  ;)
:icon_bunch:

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Kate

Quote from: Gracie FAISE on November 14, 2008, 12:51:29 PM
Actually the majority of admirers are just normal guys that have a thing for transgirls. No hidden gay or trans desires about themselves. It's about a 60/40 cut, 60% being actual normal guys, not closet cases.

Yea ya know, for all my "nobody ever wants me!" self-pitying, I do know a number of guys who know about my past and seem... well... "fascinated" by me. Just normal, straight guys, not "->-bleeped-<-s." Both younger and older than me (44), FWIW...

~Kate~
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deviousxen

Lol. I don't want people that old!!
!!111111

THOSE ARE MY CONTINUING ED CLASSMATES AGE. EFF THAT.

DX
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NicholeW.

Quote from: Kate on November 14, 2008, 01:15:20 PM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on November 14, 2008, 12:51:29 PM
Actually the majority of admirers are just normal guys that have a thing for transgirls. No hidden gay or trans desires about themselves. It's about a 60/40 cut, 60% being actual normal guys, not closet cases.

Yea ya know, for all my "nobody ever wants me!" self-pitying, I do know a number of guys who know about my past and seem... well... "fascinated" by me. Just normal, straight guys, not "->-bleeped-<-s." Both younger and older than me (44), FWIW...

~Kate~
Quote from: Kara-Xen on November 14, 2008, 01:15:34 PM
Lol. I don't want people that old!!
!!111111

THOSE ARE MY CONTINUING ED CLASSMATES AGE. EFF THAT.

DX
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: >:-) See Kate, what I said yesterday. Old for a woman is anything over 40ish and old in the culture is, as usual (or so it was when I was 20 or younger,) anyone exceeding about 30.

The older you get the wronger that seems!!  :laugh:

Nichole


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Laura Eva B

Quote from: Gracie FAISE on November 14, 2008, 12:51:29 PM
Actually the majority of admirers are just normal guys that have a thing for transgirls.

Claire, think "normal guys that have a thing for transgirls" is a kinda contradiction ?

"Normal guys" do not have a thing for women with male equipment, which is what admirers are all about.

Most admirers show no interest in post-op, and the few who specifically look to date a post-op woman must be even more mixed up in their reasons.

Sure a normal guy might accept a pre- or post- transgirl once he finds out ...  :o ... but to go specially looking for one ... that's far from normal in my reckoning !

Laura x
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The Bri Girl

     If a man is good hearted, honest, loving, caring, and healthy with his emotions.  Especially if he shares interests like playing games, collecting dolls and antique soldiers and watching old movies, Enjoyed my cooking, and maintained decent personal hygiene; then I wouldn't care if he were the other side of a hundred!

     But, as a fat person, I've dealt with chubby ->-bleeped-<-s all too often.  Especially when I was in my 20's and dating.  I resented not being a "person" but a sex object.  I didn't like that my outside was all that mattered, and when an evening was over I felt empty and lonely, and unhappy.  the payoff for me was that for a few minutes I felt attractive and lovable, but that part goes away quick. 
     The reality is that when you're in a healthy place mentally - that is, when you care enough about yourself to hold up healthy boundaries, the these kind of vultures aren't interested, they realize you won't play their game, or that you aren't on their emotional level.  They leave you alone.  And then, you're free to explore relationships with a whole better/healthier/saner class of people who appreciate you, but don't objectify you.

     At least, that's what I've learned, your milage may vary.
((((Gracie)))) :)

-Brianne
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NicholeW.

Quote from: Laura Eva B on November 14, 2008, 01:21:21 PM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on November 14, 2008, 12:51:29 PM
Actually the majority of admirers are just normal guys that have a thing for transgirls.

Claire, think "normal guys that have a thing for transgirls" is a kinda contradiction ?

"Normal guys" do not have a thing for women with male equipment, which is what admirers are all about.

Most admirers show no interest in post-op, and the few who specifically look to date a post-op woman must be even more mixed up in their reasons.

Sure a normal guy might accept a pre- or post- transgirl once he finds out ...  :o ... but to go specially looking for one ... that's far from normal in my reckoning !

Laura x


I'm not sure where "Claire" came from, but Laura that was a pretty universal round-up for someone who has no experience with the group in the first place.

As far as I know, I've only met a couple of ->-bleeped-<-s, but I'd find it difficult to group every man who would consider being with a woman who was pre or post surgery kinda risky business.

I imagine things are just not as pat as we sometimes imagine.

Nichole
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Gracie Faise

Quote from: Laura Eva B on November 14, 2008, 01:21:21 PM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on November 14, 2008, 12:51:29 PM
Actually the majority of admirers are just normal guys that have a thing for transgirls.

Claire, think "normal guys that have a thing for transgirls" is a kinda contradiction ?

"Normal guys" do not have a thing for women with male equipment, which is what admirers are all about.

Most admirers show no interest in post-op, and the few who specifically look to date a post-op woman must be even more mixed up in their reasons.

Sure a normal guy might accept a pre- or post- transgirl once he finds out ...  :o ... but to go specially looking for one ... that's far from normal in my reckoning !

Laura x


I can actually name three good male friends of mine who, if they lived in the same city as myself, would love to have me as their own now and just as much so after SRS. Their words, too. These boys are all closer to my age, though. 19 year old in New Jersey, 24 year old in London, and a 26 year old in Florida. They're all totally not creepy or weird or closeted at all.

Outside of the closet cases, The other guys just have a thing for it. It's no different of a preference other men have for red hair or big boobs or something. I don't see it as any much more than that either.

Posted on: November 14, 2008, 12:30:58 pm
Quote from: Nichole on November 14, 2008, 01:26:05 PM
Quote from: Laura Eva B on November 14, 2008, 01:21:21 PM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on November 14, 2008, 12:51:29 PM
Actually the majority of admirers are just normal guys that have a thing for transgirls.

Claire, think "normal guys that have a thing for transgirls" is a kinda contradiction ?

"Normal guys" do not have a thing for women with male equipment, which is what admirers are all about.

Most admirers show no interest in post-op, and the few who specifically look to date a post-op woman must be even more mixed up in their reasons.

Sure a normal guy might accept a pre- or post- transgirl once he finds out ...  :o ... but to go specially looking for one ... that's far from normal in my reckoning !

Laura x


I'm not sure where "Claire" came from, but Laura that was a pretty universal round-up for someone who has no experience with the group in the first place.

As far as I know, I've only met a couple of ->-bleeped-<-s, but I'd find it difficult to group every man who would consider being with a woman who was pre or post surgery kinda risky business.

I imagine things are just not as pat as we sometimes imagine.

Nichole

I'm actually coming from talking with at least a hundred or so different ->-bleeped-<-s and admireers online. Every time I talk to one I have a little survey of questions I like to ask them.

There are the older guys that are usually from Craig's List and AdultFriendFinder. Then there are a ton of them on an image board I frequent which are for the most part in their 20s, and a few handfuls of another large forum site I visit where the ages vary from high school to mid 20s.

The older they are the higher percentage of closet cases gets, it seems.
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NicholeW.

Which is why the question wasn't directed toward you, Gracie. It was directed toward Laura. :)

Nichole
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Gracie Faise

Quote from: Nichole on November 14, 2008, 01:41:33 PM
Which is why the question wasn't directed toward you, Gracie. It was directed toward Laura. :)

Nichole

Oh okay  :P
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mtfbuckeye

I don't have an answer for this.. but I wonder how many men who are attracted to transgendered women are trans themselves (even if they don't grasp that reality yet)... I've been attracted to mtf women since my teenage years, but now I know that HAD to be tied up in my own gender identity issues.

Now that I've admitted to myself and others that I am TG, my attraction to other trans people hasn't stopped.. But I do understand it better, and it makes it easier to maintain my monogamous commitment to my cis-gendered wife.
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NicholeW.

Quote from: mtfbuckeye on November 14, 2008, 01:55:12 PM
I don't have an answer for this.. but I wonder how many men who are attracted to transgendered women are trans themselves (even if they don't grasp that reality yet)... I've been attracted to mtf women since my teenage years, but now I know that HAD to be tied up in my own gender identity issues.

Now that I've admitted to myself and others that I am TG, my attraction to other trans people hasn't stopped.. But I do understand it better, and it makes it easier to maintain my monogamous commitment to my cis-gendered wife.

You are far from the first person who comes to identify as MTF who fits that paradigm, Buckeye.

Nichole
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mtfbuckeye

Nichole,
That's good to know.. As for guys in general, If I was into someone I guess I wouldn't mind WHY he liked me if he was kind to me and respectful of me. But that's just my take, as someone who isn't out there fending off drooling guys with a pointy stick. :)
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Laura Eva B

Quote from: Gracie FAISE on November 14, 2008, 01:37:09 PM
I can actually name three good male friends of mine who, if they lived in the same city as myself, would love to have me as their own now and just as much so after SRS. Their words, too. These boys are all closer to my age, though. 19 year old in New Jersey, 24 year old in London, and a 26 year old in Florida. They're all totally not creepy or weird or closeted at all.

Outside of the closet cases, The other guys just have a thing for it. It's no different of a preference other men have for red hair or big boobs or something. I don't see it as any much more than that either. I'm actually coming from talking with at least a hundred or so different ->-bleeped-<-s and admireers online. Every time I talk to one I have a little survey of questions I like to ask them.

There are the older guys that are usually from Craig's List and AdultFriendFinder. Then there are a ton of them on an image board I frequent which are for the most part in their 20s, and a few handfuls of another large forum site I visit where the ages vary from high school to mid 20s.

The older they are the higher percentage of closet cases gets, it seems.

"Outside of the closet cases, The other guys just have a thing for it. It's no different of a preference other men have for red hair or big boobs or something." ...  ::)

OK, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with ->-bleeped-<-s, or that a lot of them aren't nice guys and not at all "closet cases", but I think someone looking for a T-girl through Craiglist etc isn't quite a like preference for red hair.

What's someone with your looks and your age doing contacting over a hundred admirers on line anyway ?

Have you actually met these young guys from Florida, New Jersey and London ?? 

Surely finding a regular boyfriend who you get on with and who likes / loves you as a woman (with no T-girl issues clouding the reason for clicking with each other to begin with) and who accepts you once he knows your background can't be that difficult ?

Even finding a guy on a straight dating or chat site and "telling him" before you meet in the flesh is better than meeting up through a TG site ?  You might get lots of rejections but at least you know that there are no underlying dodgy motives in him wanting to be with you.

Laura x

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Kelley Jo

As a 47 year old male, and strictly hetero, who is only at the point of identifying as a CDer up to now I find this a bit ironic, possibly even hypocritical. I could be a candidate for the "creepy" tag.

For the record, from the days the idea sex first entered my mind to now the thought of physical intimacy with a transgirl would be untenable (I could use a much stronger term but I don't want to insult anyone). And if one of you with questionable motives, and you are out there, managed to dupe me into it just to see if you could, it'd take me weeks or possibly months to get ok with myself again.
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