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Dr. Phil Misrepresents Transgender Identity

Started by Natasha, November 26, 2008, 04:35:43 PM

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Hazumu

Dr. Phil and the production crew of his show brought that FotF mouthpiece in to do Dr. Phil's dirty work.  He's a surrogate for Dr. Phil.

And, yes, Dr. Phil shills for the 'Strict Father' nation-as-family-believing social fundamentalist movement.  From what I could see in the YouTube video, the elements of the show were massively skewed to reinforce and defend that SternFatherFamily metaphor.  And defense of SternFatherness at all costs is one of the highest virtues of SternFatherness.

BTW, have YOU written your e-mail to Dr. Phil's producer, challenging the premise and fairness of that premise of this show?  I've heard that the producer is putting out feelers to the transgender community, looking for TG community representatives for an upcoming show.  It's probably going to be another hit-piece...
Stephanie.granader@cbsparamount.com

Karen
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Janet_Girl

Karen,  I wrote them the following letter and yes I would go on if I could take off work.  I hate show like this that are so GD wrong about everything.
QuoteDear Stephanie,

It is obvious that Dr. Phil and your show knows nothing about being Transgendered or Transsexual.  You bring on these religious morons that are trying to remake the world in their image.  What don't you have people who live with this everyday on.  May be then you, Phil and the rest of the damn country might understand that we are not freaks or perverts.  It very obvious that you don't care to show the truth and you can all rotten in hell.

And Yes I am a Male to female pre-operative Transsexual and all I want is to live my life without he hate that your show and other spews to the county.  I would hate to be on your show because I could not get my mouth shut on how society treats people who are different with hate.

Janet O'Brien
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Hazumu

My letter:
QuoteThe show titled Gender Confused Kids misrepresented transsexuality from the very title on.

I do NOT make a point of watching the Dr. Phil show.  He is a personable supporter of the brand of conservatism that Professor of Cognitive Linguistics George Lakoff described as based on a 'Stern-Father Family' metaphor.

Dr. Phil may appear to moderate the 'two sides' of an issue to provide 'fairness', but the selection of Glenn Stanton of Focus on the Family, coupled with some rhetorical misdirection that suggested that he was a 'researcher' in more than name only, made sure the fix was in, and that the loyal 'Stern Father' conservative viewers would not have their preconceptions disabused.  Dr. Phil could stand there and 'moderate', but, like a pro wrestling bout, who would ultimately win was never in doubt.

What would it do to ratings and revenue if you disappointed the fan base by disabusing their preconceptions with some facts like;

-The brains of gay men are structurally similar to straight women:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/jun/16/neuroscience.psychology

-A sex difference in the human brain and its relation to transsexuality:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v378/n6552/abs/378068a0.html

-Prenatal Exposure to Diethylstilbestrol (DES) in Males and Gender-Related Disorders:
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/prenatal-exposure-diethylstilbestrol-des-134253671.html

And that's just the start.  Science trumps 'researcher' Glenn Stanton.  But, there's a fan base to maintain, isn't there?

Karen Savage
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Janet_Girl

Do you think they will ever get it into their heads.  NO.
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Ellieka

Thank you Karen and Janet. Both excellent letters. lets sock it to 'em!

Here's mine... its a bit long. Sorry ...

To whom it may concern,

   I watched the show Dr. Phil did about transgendered children. I was extremely displeased with how one sided he was. In fact, I was extremely disturbed over the choice of the shows title "Gender Confused Children". Dr. Phil was extremely biased against the transgendered children and I even felt that during his interview with one of the children that he was trying to sway her or convince her that she was mistaken. I thought the job of a psychiatrist was to help people come to terms with their problems, not try and make them conform to his own personal beliefs.

    The parents of the transgendered children, as well as the doctor that was on stage with them, were not given near the amount of talk time as the christian doctor from Focus on the Family.
Let me tell you about myself.

    I am a 33 year old pre-op transsexual woman. I was born into an Apostolic Pentecostal home. My parents are extremely conservative. I grew up with out ever having a television in my home. I was never allowed to watch any type of movie no matter where I was. I was forced to wear very masculine clothes. I had to get my hair cut every two weeks and I was forbidden to play with anything feminine.
   
    My earliest memory of being different was at age four. My mom would put me down for a nap in her room every day and as soon as she would leave the room I would get up and play in her cloths. There was a baby doll with a changeable face that she kept in one of her dresser drawers that I just loved to play with. My mother never caught me in her cloths but she did catch me with the doll and I was strictly reprimanded for playing with "girl things".

    All through grade school I was fascinated with the various hair decorations that the girls wore and I wanted to be able to wear them too. I was never permitted to wear clothing the had any type of design on it and all colors had to be " non flashy". No pink, light blue, yellow, light green,...etc. I asked my mother on day around about first grade why I couldn't wear clothes with pictures on them. She told me very sternly that "that type of clothing was not for boys." I asked her why the other boys at school could wear them. She told me that I had to show an example to the other boys and dress the way Jesus wanted me to dress. I never asked her again. I sensed that the subject was not open for discussion.

    I lived the boys life until I was fourteen years old. At fourteen I started feeling even stronger that my body was wrong somehow. One night, while bathing for bed, I noticed a small hair growing from my pubic area. I was disturbed, but I had been told that every one grows hair there. Then I noticed more hair under my arms and on my legs... I screamed!
    My mom came running to she what was wrong then broke out laughing when I told her what was wrong. She sat me down later that night and told me that I was just becoming a man... it was natural. I felt like I had been hit in the stomach. I told her, " I don't wanna look like a monkey". She just laughed and said it's only natural that I grew hair. I asked her why she didn't have hair like that. She told me only boys grow body hair. I ran from them room crying " I don't wanna become a man!".

    Later that year I had acquired some girls clothing that I kept hidden. One night, while wearing them, I was caught by both my mother and my father. They said I was possessed by a devil and one of them, I can't remember which, kept asking me if I was a ->-bleeped-<-ot. The punishment was severe and I convinced myself that I was cured. I never dressed again until I was age eighteen. I went through a vicious cycle of buying women's clothing every few weeks then getting rid of them out of fear and guilt.

    For years after that my dad spent countless hundreds of dollars and days with me building tree houses and forts and bikes. He did his best to be a father to me and guide me on the path to manhood. I think he did a great job at it and I love him for it. He never abused me or mistreated me after that incident. He loved me as a father should love his son. He probably spent more time with me then he did with my two older brothers combined. He did his best.

    At age twenty-one I was married and went into the ministry convinced that I was healed and delivered from my demons. I preached hellfire and brimstone and condemned homosexuality and effeminate men to hell. Every time I felt those urges rise up, I would lock myself in the church and throw myself upon the alter, crying out to God to deliver me from this devil. I cried and prayed so hard that I ruptured blood vessels in my cheeks and eyes and passed out from physical exhaustion. I lived that way until age twenty-seven and I just couldn't do it any more. I left the Pentecostal church and started sinking into a bottomless depression. I became verbally aggressive to my wife and started going into rages where I would throw things and punch holes in walls. I started seeing a therapist for anger and depression and after many months of that I was convinced that my GID was due to not being sexual satisfied with my wife.

    We divorced and I went on a quest to find the woman that would "cure me". I though I found her but eight months into the relationship I knew it was all a mistake. I started to come to terms with my GID at age twenty-eight but I still lived in denial about the true nature of it. I got remarried to my current wife in April of 2007 and because I was still struggling with my feelings we almost divorced.

    Finally after much soul searching I came to terms with what I am. I AM A WOMAN!!! I brought every thing out into the open with my wife who has now become my biggest supporter and friend. I started Counseling and hormone replacement therapy and I plan to undergo full SRS over the next three years.

    I am happier now then I have ever been in my life. Even on my saddest days, they are not nearly as bad as the were before. I know what I am an I will continue to be who I am.  My parents raised and nurtured me in the ways of manhood but in the end, the way I was born, the way my brain was formed in the womb, won out.

    Don't tell me that I chose to be this way. Who in the world would want to live that way, always feeling that your body didn't match your mind? My parents did everything in their power to raise me as that crack pot from Focus on the Family said they should and guess what... IT DIDN'T WORK!!!

    Nature vs Nurture? You do the math. 
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joannatsf

Quote from: Karen on November 27, 2008, 02:54:41 PM
Dr. Phil and the production crew of his show brought that FotF mouthpiece in to do Dr. Phil's dirty work.  He's a surrogate for Dr. Phil.

And, yes, Dr. Phil shills for the 'Strict Father' nation-as-family-believing social fundamentalist movement.  From what I could see in the YouTube video, the elements of the show were massively skewed to reinforce and defend that SternFatherFamily metaphor.  And defense of SternFatherness at all costs is one of the highest virtues of SternFatherness.

BTW, have YOU written your e-mail to Dr. Phil's producer, challenging the premise and fairness of that premise of this show?  I've heard that the producer is putting out feelers to the transgender community, looking for TG community representatives for an upcoming show.  It's probably going to be another hit-piece...
Stephanie.granader@cbsparamount.com

Karen

Dr. Phil is a living, breathing argument for patricide!  >:-)
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Janet_Girl

Awesome Emme.  Cami is so lucky to have you.  And I wounder if Dr. Fool can feel the hate now.  Like we feel all the time from the media.
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Sephirah

Just out of curiousity, is his full name Phil I. Stine?

QuotePhil·is·tine  (fl-stn, f-lstn, -tn)
n.
1. A member of an Aegean people who settled ancient Philistia around the 12th century b.c.

2.
a. A smug, ignorant, especially middle-class person who is regarded as being indifferent or antagonistic to artistic and cultural values.
b. One who lacks knowledge in a specific area.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Philistines
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Ellieka

I am lucky :D

I don't really hate the man, I just wish he would open his mind a bit.
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Janet_Girl

I really can't say I hate him, just what he stand for.  Ignorance, intolerance, bigotry, and hatred of people who are different.
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Ellieka

lol! yeah Leiandra, I think the latter two were more likely.

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lisagurl

The more attention the more advertisers pay.
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lisagurl

Well the shock jocks and Springer capitalize on the average  IQ.
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lady amarant

I sincerely hope that Ms. Granader and Dr. Phil take our protests on board, but somehow I doubt it. For what it's worth, here's my letter to them:

QuoteDear Ms. Granader,

I was made aware of the Dr. Phil show on "Gender Confused Kids" through various blogs and forums I frequent. I was fortunate enough to be able to watch the show, which raised a number of concerns in mind.

I was unsure about writing this letter. I am not a US citizen - I'm actually from South Africa. But I am transsexed, and Dr. Phil is a very popular show here. We likely won't see this episode on our television screens for a year or two, but somewhere along the line it will reach our shores.

That was what finally did prompt me to write: The sheer reach and influence a show like Dr. Phil has. It is watched by millions of people worldwide, many of whom accept the information and opinions presented on the show as truth, unfiltered and unexamined. Of course, that's not just true of Dr. Phil - few people today take the time to educate themselves, to explore things.

And that's why I'm concerned. A show like Dr. Phil, in dealing with topics that have a deep, profound impact on people's lives, has a responsibility to present those topics objectively, factually, and most importantly sympathetically.

Further, the show is presented as science, the host a respected and well-loved mental-health professional. His words carry weight, as do his opinions. By presenting it as science, by speaking in his professional capacity as a therapist, both the show and Dr. McGraw himself have a duty to present the scientific consensus, and to present up to date research.

And yet, the show on "Gender Confused Kids" showed somewhat of a lack of that responsibility, starting with the title itself. Transgendered people are not confused, except insomuch as they are not allowed by others to be who their brains tell them to be. Research bears this out, especially with a flurry of findings being made public in the last 6-odd months.

And yet none of that evidence was presented, except here and there by Dr. Dan Segal. Sadly though Dr. Segal was given far less of a chance to speak than Dr. Stanton, who presented the rightwing conservative Christian point of view. Dr. Phil allowed Dr. Stanton to make a number of unsubstantiated claims and misrpresent various facts.

Dr. Phil also cites a statistic that less than 20% of children who question their gender grow up to identify as trans. That's still one in five people, and the statistic does not take into account that some of those people do later go on to be late transitioners, or have a homosexual orientation. More than that, citing the statistic out of context is in itself misleading. People have a fixed gender identity. They may question it, they may fight against it, but ultimately it is a part of who they are, and allowing them to explore various gender roles as young children is not going to suddenly turn them gay or trans. They are born gay or trans or they aren't.

Please understand that this is not just a question of respect. Transgender people are 16 times more likely to be murdered than the average person in America. They are targeted out of ignorance and fear. They die because of hate.

And beyond your shores, I live in a country where lesbian women and transitioning FtM men are still routinely subjected to "corrective rape", often before they are killed anyway, while gay men and MtF transgendered women are simply shot. Or beaten to death. Or stabbed 60, 70 times.

Dr. Phil has the potential to reach so many people's hearts, to make them stop and think before they judge, before they hate. Please, please don't neglect that opportunity and make us targets.

~Simone, South Africa.

~Simone.

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Janet_Girl

Very good, Simone.  May be one of us will get through his thick head.

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Ellieka

Wow Simone, that was excellent! I had no Idea that things were that difficult there. Please take care of yourself over there.
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lady amarant

Quote from: Ellieka on November 28, 2008, 07:33:27 AM
Wow Simone, that was excellent! I had no Idea that things were that difficult there. Please take care of yourself over there.

Thanks honey. I'm lucky to be fairly well off and educated ... privileged, so I get to go home to a relatively safe and secure environment. Unfortunately though ignorance and religious/ethnic bigotry are still powerful forces here, especially living in the townships or squatter camps in the poorer areas of the cities, or living out in the rural areas ... well yeah. there is still a LOT of work that needs to be done here. :(

~Simone.
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Lisbeth

Quote from: SarahR on November 27, 2008, 12:39:53 AM
Also, his argument was that at that age kids don't know about gender, their just kids, so we as parents have to guide them into their gender. What a load of BS! So does that mean that if you abandon a kid on the streets and he grows up with no parents that he's going to somehow drift into wanting to be a girl or something. His reasoning makes no sense at all.

Scientific research has show that infants distinguish gender routinely by 18 months of age.  Of course what they need to be taught is that boys need to go out and work all day then come home and veg in front of the TV while the girl brings him a beer after cooking and cleaning all day.  They figure teaching kids about gender is indoctrinating them with things like, "Wives, submit to your husband as unto the Lord."
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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tinkerbell

I will be the happiest woman on earth when they cancel his show (along with Oprah's and Jerry Springer's)  We're beyond BS here!  >:(

tink :icon_chick:
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lizard

as much as I hate the show, It actually helped me incredibly in the last few weeks.  I recently came out to my parents, and obviously they are struggling to try and make sense of it all.  I did my best to explain it, and gave them reading material.  Now, my parents are intelligent people to begin with, but they still had a lot of the pre conceived notions etc.  but they told me one thing that really helped WAS the Dr Phil show, where they just happened to catch an episode on TG issues.  It may have even been the one posted.  They had even commented they didnt like dr phil in general, but the actual knowledgeable guest they had on was good.  I guess being intelligent people they were all but see thru all the BS and saw dr phil and his 'researcher' for exactly what they were: uniformed, unwilling to look at facts, and suggesting doing horrible things to the children.  They said "seeing how wrong dr phil and the researcher were was obvious, and it sort of helped us to 'make sense' of your situation more"

I guess what I'm saying, is even tho the show had an obvious bias in the wrong direction, it still was able to reach some people for the better.
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