QuoteWe The People Foundation

  LOL

The election is over done -- the Dem's win. 

However I will not drink the Koolaid. 

I would presume Biden would step up should Obama be outed.  The fact is not whether I am a McCain supporter or not, the fact is that I do not want a person in the White House, whose first act is to shred the Constitutional guidelines for governing this land.   Also I have not voted Republican.   I have cast votes for Democrats in National races, as well as other parties.... And I cast my vote for Hillary in the primaries. 

You blindly accept the notion that everything he states is true while evidence may be to the contrary.  If he was born in Hawaii, then offer up the Certificate of live birth, the Hospital, and the Doctor signature.  The forms would exist and the question woud be resolved.   I just want these questions answered before he takes office. 

Daisy

I do not want a person in the White House, whose first act is to shred the Constitutional guidelines for governing this land.

I take it then that you did not support Bush II taking office on the back of in re Bush v. Gore then.

Quote from: daisybelle on December 02, 2008, 09:01:30 AMIf he was born in Hawaii, then offer up the Certificate of live birth, the Hospital, and the Doctor signature.  The forms would exist and the question woud be resolved.

They have.

This entire ploy reminds me of something -- O yes, the supposed "Whitewater" scandal that was investigated for eight years and never managed to convict any Clinton of anything at all, but made very good "entertainment bait" for those who had no interest in discovering anything at all except a way to try to discredit an elected-president prior to him taking office. And then was "kept alive" for eight years and even today comes up with righties when they need to point to some example of "criminality" of Clinton that didn't involve a girl beneath a desk on her knees. *sigh*

Have to hand it to these folks. They will do whatever it takes. No wonder Charlie Colson is such a popular "evangelist" among them!

 

For all some of those people decry the 'activist courts' they sure lawyer up in a hurry and hit the courthouse steps, PR flack at their side.

Quote from: tekla on December 02, 2008, 10:25:41 AM
For all some of those people decry the 'activist courts' they sure lawyer up in a hurry and hit the courthouse steps, PR flack at their side.

"Activist judges" are OK if they are active for conservative causes, then they are held as not activist at all.

Yeah, they sure hate that whole 'original intent' when I talk about the 2nd Amendment,.

Quote from: tekla on December 02, 2008, 09:46:18 AM
I do not want a person in the White House, whose first act is to shred the Constitutional guidelines for governing this land.

I take it then that you did not support Bush II taking office on the back of in re Bush v. Gore then.

QuoteLooking at the recounts at this time that were done post-election Wikidepia shows:
In the aftermath of the election, the first independent recount was conducted by The Miami Herald and USA Today. Counting only "undervotes" (when the vote is not detected by machine), and not considering "overvotes" (when a ballot ends up with more than one indication of a vote, for example both a punch-out and hand-written name, even if both indicating the same candidate)[42] Bush would have won in all legally requested recount scenarios. If overvotes where the intent of the voter was clear were counted, using any consistent standard for 'clear intent of the voter', Gore would have won. This was not requested by either side at the time; the independent recount therefore led to a greater awareness of the issue of 'overvotes'.

Under the recount rules initially requested by Gore, Bush would have won, and under the rules requested by Bush, Gore would have won.

The matter went before the Supreme Court then, as it should now.

Look I am not contesting that the election of 2008 be thrown out (The last thing I would want to see is a run-off of potential candidates again).... we will have to live with a Dem in the White House for the next four years I expect.  Just who is the question?   

Daisy

QuoteJust who is the question?

There is no question except among those who can not accept facts.

Quote from: soldierjane on December 02, 2008, 11:35:03 AM

Quote from: tekla on December 02, 2008, 10:25:41 AM
For all some of those people decry the 'activist courts' they sure lawyer up in a hurry and hit the courthouse steps, PR flack at their side.

"Activist judges" are OK if they are active for conservative causes, then they are held as not activist at all.

QuoteAs a general usage, "activist judge" is used to describe a judge who actively and knowingly subverts, misuses, grossly misinterprets, ignores, or otherwise flouts the law and/or legal precedence due to personal opinion, be that opinion ideological, religious, philosophical, or other.

So the only way to change the law is to have it legislated, while judges make the decision on their own. 

An example,  The English Nanny in the Boston area was found guilty a couple of years ago.  However the judge overturned the sentence and she went home with time served.  The judge circumvented the Jury, the System, and ruled based on his own decision.   Probably considered activism....

Daisy

Quote from: lisagurl on December 02, 2008, 02:19:42 PM

QuoteJust who is the question?

There is no question except among those who can not accept facts.

Quoted for truth