Hey everyone!

I've been doing some thinking and I'm wondering, what is the best country to live in?  Obviously I'm looking for somewhere that is open and accepting of transgendered people and of lesbians particularly, but also other factors: jobs, safety, good quality of life, good health care, etc.  Not so sure the US is the best place to stay with Prop. 8 and everything else going to hell...

What are your thoughts?

Northern Europe, Denmark, Holland, Canada

Quote from: tekla on December 20, 2008, 12:06:32 PM
Northern Europe, Denmark, Holland, Canada

Any place that's warmer year-round?  I've had enough of snow and cold. 

For some reason, the closer to the equator you are, the more war, poverty and overpopulation you get.  You tend to get worse governments too.  Don't know why.

QuoteAny place that's warmer year-round?  I've had enough of snow and cold. 

Niger.

I agree with Tekla. Most of Western Europe would be great (except the UK, which is better than the US from a legal point of view, but not from a social one. Apart from that, maybe Thailand?

I'm angling for Europe as soon as I have the means though. I understand Sweden is a nice enough place.

~Simone.

Warmer climes are gonna be tricky, you could come here, but apart from Capetown and parts of Johannesburg, you'd have much the same problems as in the US.

~Simone.

Depends on where in the US, its a huge place, and some places are very different from others.  Part of the problem here is that most of this stuff is on a state level, and that means there are fifty sets of rules, regulations, and all that crap, but in the end, you really only have to deal with one, so pick someplace easy and not, say, Alabama.

Quote from: tekla on December 20, 2008, 12:34:01 PM
Depends on where in the US, its a huge place, and some places are very different from others.  Part of the problem here is that most of this stuff is on a state level, and that means there are fifty sets of rules, regulations, and all that crap, but in the end, you really only have to deal with one, so pick someplace easy and not, say, Alabama.

I suppose that's true of most places (except for the whole state vs. federal confusion. Which really is confusing. Like really. ) South Africa has tolerant areas and bigoted hellholes, like everywhere else. I think on balance Western Europe is probably the most accepting place around though. Except for some of the more southern places like Greece, for example.

~Simone.

Northern Europe ?!. I would take away Finland and Norway. Maybe even Sweden.
(From different reasons.)

Quote from: lady amarant on December 20, 2008, 12:23:34 PM
I agree with Tekla. Most of Western Europe would be great (except the UK, which is better than the US from a legal point of view, but not from a social one. Apart from that, maybe Thailand?

I'm angling for Europe as soon as I have the means though. I understand Sweden is a nice enough place.

~Simone.

Probably not Thailand, I've heard great things about Sweden, and I sort of heart them.   

Maybe I'll join you? 

Jenn

Sweden has so strong feminist movement that it affects negative towards transwomen.

You wanted warm and in the next breath you say Sweden, the home of Winter Sports?

Quote from: tekla on December 20, 2008, 12:18:05 PM
For some reason, the closer to the equator you are, the more war, poverty and overpopulation you get.  You tend to get worse governments too.  Don't know why.

Sun. It fries your brains

Finland and Norway are socially conservative expectionally issues like this.
Also Finland has problems to be a real democracy after Nazi-alliance in WW2.

My final judgement will say Holland even there are growing number of social conservatives.

Try Vancouver BC. For the most part Vancouver it TS friendly and the climate is not all that bad if you can put up with four months of rain in the winter, and we do have rain forests.

Cindy

Quote from: soldierjane on December 20, 2008, 01:13:36 PMSun. It fries your brains

Along with everything else. *sweatpantwheeze*

~Simone.

Quote from: goingdown on December 20, 2008, 01:16:18 PM
Finland and Norway are socially conservative expectionally issues like this.
Also Finland has problems to be a real democracy after Nazi-alliance in WW2.

Only after Hitler went against the Sovier Union, which was later in the war.
In the beginning of the war the Soviets were running alongside the Nazis on the Molotov-Ribbentropp carriage. Polandgot squished between them and they shared the spoils, so the Finns shifted alliances in order to avoid being crushed. They first fought the Soviets alone, then the Soviets alongside with the Germans and then the Germans with the Allies.

I don't know if we can call Finland "conservative" as we call the US "conservative". They have same-sex civil unions, for example.

We can. I live in Finland and US seems more liberal to me.