Quote from: Tasha Elizabeth on December 24, 2008, 09:42:34 AM
i have a question.  well, more than one actually.

the modified rule states any picture or post made "with the intent to titillate"

is this an objective or a subjective standard?  is the titillation in the mind of the poster or the viewer?  since it has the qualifier "intent" i am assuming it is the poster's purpose for posting which is the determiner, but what if that intent is innocent and the post or picture titillates regardless?  violation?

for example, audrey's shibari thread.  while she no longer has those pictures up, i found them to be extremely hot; and i dont believe that was her intent.   a lot of different people here have a lot of different fetishes, does this mean if i know a member has a foot fetish and post pictures of my feet, it is a violation if that was my intent?

some of the quizzes and links are quite risque; as are many of the topics in the sexuality forum.    if i post about something that turns me on, is it a violation?  steph posts fairly graphic accounts of her sexual encounters.  violation?

i am not questioning the need for such policies, only concerned that if there is going to be such a standard, that there are enough guidelines set out to know what is in compliance and what is not.

i am assuming that moderators will make these determinations.  yet, i would imagine that if there were a survey accomplished, each one would have a different definition of what was titillating.

again, i am not questioning the tos, or debating the need for such a revision, only requesting clarification of how to follow it.

thanks!

We must remember that this site is a support site open to everyone on the net.  Folks from every walk of life and age group can login including children and their parents and we cannot risk our site being blocked because of inappropriate photographs and yes there those who would have seen the photos in the topic in question as okay but then there would be those who wouldn't. This site has been attacked many times in the past by hackers who see Susan's as a place for perverts etc.  So we do need to be judicious in what is posted. We do have an area for the posting of pictures.

Members who are not sure if a picture is appropriate should simply email Staff with a copy of the picture for opinion.

Steph

Quote from: Lisbeth on December 24, 2008, 01:19:43 PM

Quote from: tekla on December 24, 2008, 12:48:09 AM
At the rate she is going, that's going to amount to a lifetime ban.  You can only dance with the devil so long before the bill comes due.

There is only one person that has ever happened to.

Lisbeth, I think tekla had something a lot more grim in mind. 

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So now people can post paintings of nude chicks as their avatars from time to time and have whole threads full of skimpy women quizzes but i can't even show off my progress?

eff you


bull the -u-k s-it

Maybe she will take some spelling classes too before returning.

Quote from: Tasha Elizabeth on December 24, 2008, 09:42:34 AM

the modified rule states any picture or post made "with the intent to titillate"

is this an objective or a subjective standard?  is the titillation in the mind of the poster or the viewer?  since it has the qualifier "intent" i am assuming it is the poster's purpose for posting which is the determiner, but what if that intent is innocent and the post or picture titillates regardless?  violation?

The judgement is in the hands of the moderation staff and as such if you feel they are incorrect then simply pm me and I will look into the situation.

In this case Annwyn posted pictures of her in bra and panties. There was no reason for doing so.

Another example would be sexually explicit lingerie pictures, they would run afoul of this rule.

Quote from: Tasha Elizabeth on December 24, 2008, 09:42:34 AM
for example, audrey's shibari thread.  while she no longer has those pictures up, i found them to be extremely hot; and i dont believe that was her intent.   a lot of different people here have a lot of different fetishes, does this mean if i know a member has a foot fetish and post pictures of my feet, it is a violation if that was my intent?

Again the moderation staff will make the determination. Any objection or issues pm me. If you object to a posting or photograph use the report this post option and let the moderation staff do their job and review it.

Quote from: Tasha Elizabeth on December 24, 2008, 09:42:34 AM
some of the quizzes and links are quite risque; as are many of the topics in the sexuality forum.    if i post about something that turns me on, is it a violation?  steph posts fairly graphic accounts of her sexual encounters.  violation?

Sexuality forum has a bit looser rules however I will still have objection to sexually explicit photographs in that forum. Call me a prude but this will keep this site available to more users of all age groups.

Here is what I told the forum staff...

QuoteBy having material like that on this site it makes it more likely that we will be blocked by parental filtering companies, foreign countries, and so on. Dressed pictures are fine.  But bras, panties, underwear, and sexually explicit lingerie is not.

Long nightgowns or pj's which provide adequate coverage are also fine.

......Merry Christmas Susan!



Chrissty

Wait...  you can't show pictures of "progress"?

Quote from: tekla on December 24, 2008, 06:09:05 PM
Wus tat you on top of the wagon when it come a rollin' into town?

"The DAR has sent a cannon for the court house square."

Actually I worked for First Bank at the time they were buying Wells. It was a big problem at the time that the merger made Wells such a big competitor that other banks didn't want to use their armored car services anymore. Opened up the armed courier market to lots of second-tier companies.

Quote from: Mister on December 25, 2008, 12:20:21 PM
Wait...  you can't show pictures of "progress"?

I'm sure that F-to-M post-mastectomy pictures are just fine. On the other hand, I wouldn't want pictures of my boobs hanging out there for just anyone to look at.

Quote from: Mister on December 25, 2008, 12:20:21 PM
Wait...  you can't show pictures of "progress"?

Progress can be shown just fine while still being clothed, I'd think.

Hi, I just come about this thread, I know Annwyn was being a pain in the butt but I did not know she had been banned until now. Sorry to hear that, but as someone has already said, I believe she has been baiting for this to happen for some time. But I also do agree with Postoplesbian.

Cindy

Quote from: Steph on December 24, 2008, 06:49:45 PM
This site has been attacked many times in the past by hackers who see Susan's as a place for perverts etc.

This place will be seen that way, regardless of the content.
Plenty of people find transsexuals 'perverted' without any provocation.

Quote from: TamTam on December 25, 2008, 03:32:56 PM
Progress can be shown just fine while still being clothed, I'd think.

Oh for sure!
"Look, I've had SRS, you can tell from how tight my jeans are in this pic!!!111one"
[ /sarcasm]

Well I don't think I would care to show my privates even if they were on active duty....errrr I mean even I was 20 years younger. I'm happy with the results and it appears that a few elder gents appear to like the scenery in the summer anyway.

I haven't noticed any other photos of Audry outside of the ones in the photo sharing thread.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,35756.100.html
She 's a good kid I been keeping in touch with her and she is working hard on her new career as an RN and working on getting her surgery this spring I believe. I wish she were my kid, I would be proud to have her as my kid. But then there are a few other here I am fond of as well.

Cindy

Quote from: Vexing on December 28, 2008, 12:18:34 AM

Quote from: Steph on December 24, 2008, 06:49:45 PM
This site has been attacked many times in the past by hackers who see Susan's as a place for perverts etc.

This place will be seen that way, regardless of the content.
Plenty of people find transsexuals 'perverted' without any provocation.

Quote from: Vexing on December 28, 2008, 12:21:49 AM

Quote from: TamTam on December 25, 2008, 03:32:56 PM
Progress can be shown just fine while still being clothed, I'd think.

Oh for sure!
"Look, I've had SRS, you can tell from how tight my jeans are in this pic!!!111one"
[ /sarcasm]

The rules are in place not only to protect the site but to protect the members.  Joining this site is completely voluntary, and posting is a privilege that is granted not a right. Of course there are members who find it difficult to follow the guide lines and those members are encouraged to search for alternate sites.

Steph

Haha Thanks Cindy,  Im irritated because I got my application sent in last week and Christmas is slowing everything up.  I want to get my date set already.  lol.

Yea Holidays I find kind of annoying to when one is trying to get some business done. Would you believe I just sent for my new birth certificate three weeks ago, I wouldn't of bothered except I need the right marker for a passport and I am planning on going across the border a few more times before I kick the bucket, Already bought the acreage for the farm, just needed a bucket.

Say I do pray you get your date set soon and email me when you do, OK? Also sending prayers that you do well on the RN course.

Bleedin internet service was out for three hours. "Gaaaaaaads!!" how boring.

Cindy

Quote from: Susan on December 25, 2008, 02:21:24 AM

Here is what I told the forum staff...

QuoteBy having material like that on this site it makes it more likely that we will be blocked by parental filtering companies, foreign countries, and so on. Dressed pictures are fine.  But bras, panties, underwear, and sexually explicit lingerie is not.

Long nightgowns or pj's which provide adequate coverage are also fine.

OK.  I get the gist though, that a photo in a swimsuit/bikini would be ok in most circumstances.  I mean, you can wear that in public most places without getting arrested.  Is that the standard?  Does it depend, in part, on the setting of the photo (i.e., beach vs. bedroom) and/or pose struck?

I know you have to have a "you know it it when you see it" standard, like the U.S. supreme court, but if there is a blanket rule against swimwear, it would be nice to know in advance.  Thanks.

It is kind of sad, well, if not sad then at least a shame, that people who need the most help have the hardest time getting it - and frequently through their own actions - and people who need the least, get the most, often by doing nothing at all.

Quote from: tekla on December 29, 2008, 12:52:19 AM
It is kind of sad, well, if not sad then at least a shame, that people who need the most help have the hardest time getting it - and frequently through their own actions - and people who need the least, get the most, often by doing nothing at all.

Yeah. I worry for Annwyn very, very much. ó_ò

Mina.

Quote from: mina.m->-bleeped-<-ie link=topic=52303.msg324812#msg324812 date=1230536017
Yeah. I worry for Annwyn very, very much. ó_ò

Don't. She's actually one of the most well adjusted young women I know. Causing drama and bucking against authority is pretty normal for a barely post-teen female.
She is, and will be, fine.

Cheeeeez wiz I been a system buster since the hippie days. Still don't adhere to it well but I have to be careful if I don't want my old backside in some backwoods drunk tank and never see daylight again then come up a thousand years from now as bubbling crude in some remote swamp land.

Cindy