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are you alive or do you just exist?

Started by Natasha, December 27, 2008, 01:23:30 PM

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cindybc

Cost you a quarter for admission. You even get to thread the needle and come out the other side in a blaze of glory. ;D

Cindy
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Cindy

Hi
Cindy bc love to hear your stories, probably already posted but I'm a newbie. Still haven't had enough requests to how I was outed in Aus.

The question was I think are you alive, or do you just exist?

At the higher mind level of humans compared to ? it has to take in joy of life. That in itself has a problem, If a bacteria is living to reproduce is it happy? If a male lives to have sex is it happy? If a women lives to love is she happy? Life , living and existence are bound together. In other threads I've read the lonliness that people have, do they exist? Surely. Are they living, questionable.
Can they live? TOTALLY, that's what this site is for. This site offers hope that life is there that existance is not enough.
Choose life. It's hard at first. I came out to everyone when I was 55, On 1/1/2009 I'm 56.
I've picked life and it's rockin'

LoL
Cindy James
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Chaunte

Quote from: Robyn on December 27, 2008, 04:56:49 PM
Very much alive.  Closing in on 72.  Mourning the loss of investment dollars,  Still working and being appreciated for it.  Upgrading the condo.  Will get the mainland house ready to sell next spring/summer.  Signed up for another cruise and will soon sign up for Gender Odyssey 2009 with my husband.

Life is good and worth living.  At the end, come screeching in on your 120 year old back, all bruised and bleeding, shouting, "Whoa.  What a ride."

Robyn

I love it!  You have one of the best attitudes, Robyn!

I would say that I am alive.

True, I have had some significant financial difficulties these past few months, but the courts have resolved those.  No, not in my favor, but at least the playing field is no longer a moving target - for now.

I believe I awoke 31 October 2003 - the Day of First Acceptance.  That is when the true seed of this life first germinated.

Since then, my life and postings here have described the growing pains that come with learning to live and not just exist.  April 2006 is when the shoots of this wild flower first saw the light of day.  That was when I realized that I had to transition.  Indeed, it became a sine qua non - and I was ready to pay the cost.

22 August this year is when this blossom opened to reveal her colors to the world.  I have felt the warmth of the sun and stood in awe at the stars of night.  Everything is new once again.  New revelations have come since this new Day of Birth.

I have found myself stronger than what I thought I would be.

I have found myself more content than what I thought I would be.

Lastly, I have found myself happier than what I thought I would be.

I am alive.

Chaunte
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mina.magpie

LOL. Some days I even wonder about the existing thing.

That said, I do get living days too. More and more often these days. Transition'll do that. ^_^

Mina.
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soldierjane

Quote from: Kiera on December 28, 2008, 07:14:10 PM
Quote from: soldierjane on December 27, 2008, 03:23:28 PM
Well, as Descartes proved, if there's only one thing that I can know is that I exist.
"I think, therefore I am" is a postulate, a necessary (taken for granted) given but not a "proof" in and by itself, on which one attempts to base every other observable thing. As far as "existence" is concerned all events and things are relative and based solely upon who the observer is . . . and where.


That wasn't what I meant. The fact that the observer thinks is fact enough (for the observer) that he/she/it exists. Even if my whole life is the feverished dream of a dying deity, the fact that I'm asking myself these questions proves conclusively that whatever I am, I exist. q.e.d :)
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SusanK

Quote from: Katia on December 27, 2008, 01:23:30 PM
are you alive or do you just exist? ;)

Both, and at the same time too. Amazing stuff, stardust. We're just the current form of our own stuff. We've existed a few billion years before and we'll exist long after we stop being alive.
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cindybc

Hi CindyJames, I believe I gave my opinion on the question which is the title t this thread on the first page fifth from the bottom.

I found that there was life after all the pissing and moaning about life being so rough, then began to do something about my life. Like for instant doing something productive with it, instead of hiding in some dark hole somewhere drinking myself to death.

So taking my chances with coming out as who I am was a whole lot less scary then that hole I was in before. A lot more exciting and enlightening then my previous life. You got to do what you got to do to turn your own crank because there ain't no one else going to turn it for you. ;D I do pray that I have at least touched on what you are looking for sweets. Darn good thread though.

Cindy

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cindybc

As for why some of those who are here who are pissing and moaning why they are not happy with their lives after transition? Well I believe that a lot of them never really planed or thought out ahead of time what they were going to do once they got there. Some are not prepared to not only live as women, but be as women, to think like women, feel like women, act like women, follow the roll of women 100% of the time.

And also unfortunately it is not anticipated that there was still a lot more growing up to do as women after the surgery. You don't graduate after surgery, there is still much more to learn. It is a never ending learning curve, even for GG's who have grown up, matured then aged into their own genetic gender or sexual identity, which they have lived as all their lives.

We on the other hand have only just begun at (insert age). I believe that there should not only just be gender therapists whom only deal with the psychological, which is fine, but I have often wondered if there shouldn't also be some type of refinement or training school that could teach young ladies how to be young ladies available for trans folks as well. I believe there is such a place in California.

If there aren't such refinement schools  there should be time spent in your own home in training yourself, I did. Preparation is about 80% of a successful transitioning to the prepared to live and fully function as a female after transitioning

Then there are a good many M-F still living with a spouse, where transitioning is literally tearing both parties apart inside out. This is an unfortunate circumstance, because I truly sympathise for both parties.

The SO as far as she knew signed the marriage contract believing she was marrying a man. Then the man discovers he is not a man but is a woman inside and wishes and desires to express her inner most feelings to the SO. See the shock and conflict on both sides here? The TS who still loves her wife and is unwilling to let go and the wife will sacrifice her desires and repress them but that will not last long.

The SO on the other hand hopes and prays it's just a passing thing that will go away with time. So then you have this tug of war, Our TS friend fighting to chose between the desire to be the woman who resides within or her, and her SO.  So the tug of war continues until good old GID steps in and the rope breaks and our TS friend either decides to take free flying lessons off a cliff, or eventually the struggle becoming intolerable gives into what has been driving her relentlessly for a good many years .

Work, Oh yes that wonderful but illusive word. **Gainful employment.** In some cases TS folks end up working the streets because it is next to impossible to obtain gainful employment after starting full time transitioning. Again this can possibly be worked out with good good head start at planing your work career before beginning transition.     

There are many other reasons for the pissing and moaning you hear in these rooms which among them I could almost swear that some are only here to stire the poo poo pot for the others and then the wanna bee's and some who I suspect are just cisgendered people come here to have sport with us. Not pointing any fingers at anyone in particular and I pray that I am wrong. I will not sit back and wear a judges robes and start judging folks, not my job. There are enough of them doing that to themselves already.

Anyway, Even with all the odds stacked against us it is still possible to find happiness in living, thriving, and not just existing.

Cindy
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