Quote from: Zythyra on January 11, 2009, 12:20:34 PM

Quote from: Ephilei on January 11, 2009, 11:43:25 AM
Me too. But many times I don't look androgynous which is one reason androgyne doesn't fit me.

One can be an androgyne (internal sense of gender) without necessarily having an androgynous presentation (external expression of gender).

Z

Yes and no. No because "androgynous" is the adjective form of "androgyne," so regardless of the official meaning, people will have a conotation of androgynous. That conotation even pervades previous parts of this thread!

Quote from: Ephilei on January 11, 2009, 05:49:45 PM

Quote from: Zythyra on January 11, 2009, 12:20:34 PM

Quote from: Ephilei on January 11, 2009, 11:43:25 AM
Me too. But many times I don't look androgynous which is one reason androgyne doesn't fit me.

One can be an androgyne (internal sense of gender) without necessarily having an androgynous presentation (external expression of gender).

Z

Yes and no. No because "androgynous" is the adjective form of "androgyne," so regardless of the official meaning, people will have a conotation of androgynous. That conotation even pervades previous parts of this thread!

True enough. When I first heard the term androgyne, I wasn't sure whether to use it sonce my presentation isn't always androgynous (although not for lack of preference).

Z

When people began referring to me as androgynous, I didn't know what it meant at the time. I was too preoccupied by other things and didn't really think about it. But the term kept coming up from time to time. So I started to investigate. This lead to understanding human behavior better in general. I still have allot to learn. Funny how a particular term can influence a study and then one study leads to another.

Quote from: Ephilei on January 11, 2009, 05:49:45 PM
Yes and no. No because "androgynous" is the adjective form of "androgyne," so regardless of the official meaning, people will have a conotation of androgynous. That conotation even pervades previous parts of this thread!

Well, to be perfectly honest, 'androgyne' isn't in any standard dictionary, so I would say it is derived from the term 'androgynous'.  I know that seems persnickety, but I do think it's important as far as understanding goes. One way to look at it is to say that a person who identifies as androgyne is psychologically androgynous.  It has more to do with how you feel on the inside than what you look like or how you dress.

Androgyne is in my widget dictionary, states the origin as 16th century.

Z

Quote from: Zythyra on January 12, 2009, 07:28:17 PM
Androgyne is in my widget dictionary, states the origin as 16th century.

Z

then why does firefox keep underlining it? 

They'll do that!!

Quote from: Jaimey on January 12, 2009, 07:32:02 PM

Quote from: Zythyra on January 12, 2009, 07:28:17 PM
Androgyne is in my widget dictionary, states the origin as 16th century.

Z

then why does firefox keep underlining it? 

Maybe it isn't in Firefox's dictionary?

I also notice underlines for the word transgender, which is annoying.

Z

I have a book of literary criticism called, 'the androgyne imagination', and uses the term as if it is expecting other literary critics to understand the term.

  Yup they'll do that too  Don't you just love critics?