This could go in the sexuality forum but I'm more interested in the androgyne perspective. I don't mind if it is shifted if that is considered more appropriate,

This has probably been talked about before, but do you see your sexual preference in relation to your physical body or gender?

I think sexuality is far more complex than can be encompased by a simple heterosexual, homosexual, asexual, animal lover kind of paradigm. Do these things even work for us? Do they actually work that well for anyone? You could draw into it a whole mess of physical, mental, presentation and behavioural preference.

I think in light of ourselves maybe it would be best to use descriptors like penis loving, vulva loving, female form dressed in male work clothes playing a trade worker and speaking in russian loving...

Quote from: Nicky on January 19, 2009, 06:31:30 PM
female form dressed in male work clothes playing a trade worker and speaking in russian loving...

Well, my sexuality is regrettably no where near that interesting.

I suppose I'm hetrosexual, but I do see it more in terms of "I like guys".

There was a thread somewhere long, long ago, maybe on this forum maybe not, which came up with alternatives to strait/gay/bi, using some gender prefixes for what one is attacted to... I don't remember the words or how they were constructed now... though rather different from "penis loving".

The King of the forest is bisexual. He is receiving women. However, by royal decree, men are currently banned from his chambers.

Quote from: Nero on January 19, 2009, 08:09:34 PM
The King of the forest is bisexual. He is receiving women. However, by royal decree, men are banned from his chambers.

Aw man!

Some terms
gynephilic: loving women
androphilic: loving men

Me: I generally say bi, although those inbetween would be quite fine with me.

I'm sexually attracted to people I find sexually attractive, regardless of the anatomy and whether or not they were born with it or had SRS to correct it.

Generally, I've always been attracted to men. I've never really been attracted to anyone sexually, though. I was reading up on it and it turns out that that actually makes me asexual, since asexual people can be non-sexually attracted to people and/or sexually responsive, it's just that they aren't sexually responsive to other people. So...yeah. Sexually asexual, emotionally heterosexual.

I'm attracted to the person, not the gender/s or lack thereof

Z

The binary Homo Hetro & Bi don't work for me because I'm neither male nor Female exclusivly
I'm romanticaly attracted to a wide range of people who are not typical male
& not so fem that I wish i was them (causing dysphoria)
my fanticies are basicly asexual

I'm about 48% Lesbian 4% Straight Male 48% asexual
Only willing to do anything One sided if its going to lead to kids,  I want to be a parrent

I find sexual attraction to be very fluid. I might be attracted to someones certain style whether or not their male or female. I definately like boys who are a little girly, and girls who are a little tough like Shane on the L word.

Quote from: Zythyra on January 19, 2009, 11:09:56 PM
I'm attracted to the person, not the gender/s or lack thereof

Z

I go with this one. 

That doesn't mean that either Z or I are easy.   

Quote from: Rebis on January 20, 2009, 07:29:40 PM

Quote from: Zythyra on January 19, 2009, 11:09:56 PM
I'm attracted to the person, not the gender/s or lack thereof

Z

I go with this one. 

That doesn't mean that either Z or I are easy.   

What about physical stuff? Do you think of your preference in terms of your gender or your own physical being? e.g. some would say I am heterosexual cause I have a male body and like women, but does that make sense for a trans person?

Quote from: Rebis on January 20, 2009, 07:29:40 PM
That doesn't mean that either Z or I are easy.   

Only easy for the right person 

Quote from: Nicky on January 20, 2009, 07:53:03 PM
What about physical stuff? Do you think of your preference in terms of your gender or your own physical being? e.g. some would say I am heterosexual cause I have a male body and like women, but does that make sense for a trans person?

In terms of my gender. I have body perceived as male, my partner has body perceived as female, however we aren't a het couple at all.

Z

I would go with the "attracted to the person" position. What sex they are really doesn't matter.

Quote from: Blueflare on January 19, 2009, 08:04:52 PM
I suppose I'm hetrosexual, but I do see it more in terms of "I like guys".

That's me too.  The only thing that makes me heterosexual is that I have a female body and I like men.  But my liking men really isn't sexual attraction as much as emotional attraction.  I've never had any emotional attraction to a woman/female bodied person. 

Here's a question I have.  In the movie "Gender Rebel", all three of the people they were observing were female bodied and liked women/female bodied people and they all exclusively used the word genderqueer.  It seems to me that most of us on here who use androgyne (not all, by any means...or maybe it's just the most talkative of us) seem to like members of the opposite sex.    Just a random thought I had one day.  (happens a lot...)

Quote from: Nicky on January 20, 2009, 07:53:03 PM

Quote from: Rebis on January 20, 2009, 07:29:40 PM

Quote from: Zythyra on January 19, 2009, 11:09:56 PM
I'm attracted to the person, not the gender/s or lack thereof

Z

I go with this one. 

That doesn't mean that either Z or I are easy.   

What about physical stuff? Do you think of your preference in terms of your gender or your own physical being? e.g. some would say I am heterosexual cause I have a male body and like women, but does that make sense for a trans person?

I have been trying to reply to this off and on and am having trouble conceiving what I what to say.

I feel my preference in terms of my gender and not my physical being.  Maybe there are no words for this.  Maybe I'm afraid to come right out and say it but whichever sex I've been with, I tend to feel female. I don't have a lot of experience really.  I have a feeling I'm more comfortable with female bodies, but then I never had the chance to openly and fully explore the male ones. 

For some reason, i am a little uncomfortable writing this today.  I want to be honest, though.  For some reason I've been concerned that people I know in real life might come by here and read my stuff.  I shouldn't care, though, and I don't want to start keeping it all in again.

I need to be able to express these things; like the fact that I'm fine being with any human I feel a connection with in a sensual way.

I do know that my motivation tends to be more emotional than physical.

Quote from: Jaimey on January 21, 2009, 11:09:07 PM

Quote from: Blueflare on January 19, 2009, 08:04:52 PM
I suppose I'm hetrosexual, but I do see it more in terms of "I like guys".

Here's a question I have.  In the movie "Gender Rebel", all three of the people they were observing were female bodied and liked women/female bodied people and they all exclusively used the word genderqueer.  It seems to me that most of us on here who use androgyne (not all, by any means...or maybe it's just the most talkative of us) seem to like members of the opposite sex.    Just a random thought I had one day.  (happens a lot...)

I don't know if this will make much sense but me trying to fit in with other guys growing up (especially at an all boys school) was so hard, lonely and painfull that I was unable to connect with other guys.  I did connect with a  couple of guys who also didn't fit the mold perfectly but they did fit better then me I could see myself in a non sexual relationship  with one of them he has said that he is "a bit of a girl" to me
but anyone who I can not connect with "normal males" mostly seem too painful to be around in a close way

Okay. 

There's 'relationship' and there's 'sex'.

I much prefer relationships with female gendered people.

Sex (as if I ever do it anyway) is fine for me with any of the existing body types.  Female, male, mixed. As long as there is either attraction or lust.

I've become asexual anyway.

I prefer female bodies, and I prefer female minds but I'm not against the man sort completely.

Quote from: Pica Pica on January 24, 2009, 04:39:52 AM
I'm not against the man sort completely.

I am. No more men for me. Though if I continue to date girls, they'll have to be less work than the last one.

You lazy bastard!