the kind of unconditional love you would have for your parents, a child or a best friend, do you also have for yourself?

yes I love myself unconditionally as long as I have done everything right that day! (sorry couldn't resist a small joke!)

In all seriousness I must honestly say that I do not believe that there is a such thing as unconditional love because I think there is always a line that someone can cross where what they do cannot be forgiven. with that said I do love myself because I continously try to examine myself and how I treat others so I can be lovable to myself and if there is something standing in the way of that I change so i am a lovable and I figure if I exime myself and find the way i treat others makes me lovable in my eyes then I am lovable to others as well!

probably not.

I can love my friends and parents unconditionally because I can't effect their actions, but I know my own thoughts before I do things, I know the other options I could have taken. In a really overdramatic way, I know the blackness of my own heart....Now most of the time, I don't give in to it, so I love myself, but occasionally I slip, and then I do not.

I don't think I love myself unconditionally.. I can love others unconditionally, and do.. but.. I've done things in the past that have made me hate myself to unbearable levels, and I don't think that's unconditional love.  I wouldn't even say I love myself in the course of everyday life.. I love what I do sometimes, yeah, but myself..?  I'm just me.  Most of the time whatever opinion I have of myself is pretty neutral.  I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, I just.. what's the point of loving myself?  I am myself.

But on the other hand.. if I can hate myself, I should be able to love myself, right?  I dunno..

Quote from: Pica Pica on January 27, 2009, 08:09:20 PM
probably not.

I can love my friends and parents unconditionally because I can't effect their actions, but I know my own thoughts before I do things, I know the other options I could have taken. In a really overdramatic way, I know the blackness of my own heart....Now most of the time, I don't give in to it, so I love myself, but occasionally I slip, and then I do not.

you're too hard on yourself. and there's no room for blackness in your heart with all the goodness there.

QuoteIn all seriousness I must honestly say that I do not believe that there is a such thing as unconditional love because I think there is always a line that someone can cross where what they do cannot be forgiven

When it comes to yourself we all make mistakes, it is that we cannot escape ourselves so we do forgive ourselves. In the end the only life you have is your own. The mind always distorts our own thinking it is our minds job to protect our ego.

Quote from: lisagurl on January 27, 2009, 08:34:40 PM

QuoteIn all seriousness I must honestly say that I do not believe that there is a such thing as unconditional love because I think there is always a line that someone can cross where what they do cannot be forgiven

When it comes to yourself we all make mistakes, it is that we cannot escape ourselves so we do forgive ourselves. In the end the only life you have is your own. The mind always distorts our own thinking it is our minds job to protect our ego.

this is a very good point! I guess I should have said I do my best to treat others the way I would like to be treated and yes there are many times in my life I have fallen short of that goal and when i see that i am treating someone in a way I would not want to be treated I try to correct it. I would just like to say i like the way your mind works! 

i think we tend to be our own sternest judges though

Am I healthy physically, emotionally and spiritually? Am I the best person I can be? Yes, I am.  Therefore,  there is no reason to ever not love myself unconditionally! 


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P.S.  FYI, I trust myself unconditionally as well! 

Took me a while to learn to love myself unconditionally. My parents never did and I had few friends, let alone a best friend,  throughout life. As I began to research and look into transitioning I found myself more at peace with me and loving the person I am and will become. Tis an amazing process (I almost want to say born again.. but not in a religious sense; in a soul, life sense)

love love love love

Right now no, I feel like a fraud. As I start to think about the fact I really am going to transition the more I care about myself. I am actually doing something for myself. I hope one day to love myself unconditionally, one day when I can actually be myself.
Myles

Re: do you love yourself unconditionally?

yes. there have been times i've hated my actions, but never stopped loving myself. if i didn't love myself unconditionally, i expect i'dve offed myself by now.

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and uh, what about the OP? do you love yourself unconditionally devil gurl? 

Quote from: Nero on January 30, 2009, 11:11:55 AM
and uh, what about the OP? do you love yourself unconditionally devil gurl? 

i'm in love with myself devil boy! haha

Nope. But the people in my head used to. I miss that.

Im trying to get to the point of loving my self unconditionally. Im getting there.

Yes I do.
I've made lots of mistakes and hurt many people who either know me or not, but I accept that. I'm not perfect in either body or mind, especially in body ! And will never be, I can never be pregnant and have children. But I accept that. I can never be a man; even though I have an XY chromosome, aaccept and love me. Although my Y seems to have a bit of a tail that other Y's don't. I accept it all. I do not believe in Gods. Therefore it is my choice. Be a miserable s**t or accept your self, I love and accept me. If I didn't who else would? I think lack of self acceptance and self love ( in then mental way is a prime problem with isolated people, and many of us are isolated; in the psychological sense.

Hugs
Cindy James

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Sorry for in coherence my word program is placing words randomly sometimes. Don't know why, any ideas?

No, because like Jessie up thread I don't believe unconditional love exists between human beings.

Whether it is is towards children, parents, friends, lovers there are reasons and motivations there.

Cynical maybe, but that's what one gets with age and living with a psychologist.

Perfectly honestly? No.

I am ruthless towards myself. Highly critical of everything I do. I have torn up thousands more pieces of arts than what I've scanned/photographed and shared.
I'm notorious for pointing out flaws in reaction to being complemented on something I've done. It's a horrible habit and I'm trying to break it. (You know. "Lovely dinner", "yeah, but I overcooked the potatoes".)

To be honest, I don't believe in "unconditional" love either. There's always something you have to do, have to be, etc...

I love myself on the condition that I leave the room when I'm done.



so, the answer is NO!