I found this video about the gender diversity of the Bugis people of South Sulawesi, Indonesia posted at http://genderfork.com/ and thought it might be of interest to some of you. I hope you enjoy it.

If you haven't seen the Genderfork site before, I hope you enjoy that also.

~Shannon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9VmLJ3niVo#noexternalembed

Thanks for the video link Shannon. I particularly like the part where they said if all five genders aren't present, then the world is out of balance.

I would really love to live in a world that accepted and celebrated my existence.

Z

that's an interesting site...spose that makes me Bissu.

That video was very good.

very good.   I had a moment where I considered going to live with them.

Thanks for posting sweetie. Very cool.

Mina.

That is pretty cool. No need to fear the Bugi - man or woman 
A truly interesting video

Quote from: Rebis on February 09, 2009, 10:28:47 PM
That video was very good.

very good.   I had a moment where I considered going to live with them.

They'd likely recognize you as their long lost leader 

Z

Quote from: Zythyra on February 10, 2009, 07:23:25 AM
They'd likely recognize you as their long lost leader 

Z

I wish.  "Bring me some sweets, my sweets!"

Quote from: Zythyra on February 09, 2009, 04:56:49 PM
I particularly like the part where they said if all five genders aren't present, then the world is out of balance.

This part really got my attention too. And I also believe it to be true, whether it is in regards to trans/homophobia, misogyny, or even lesbian/feminist separatism.

I think humanity does itself a great disservice whenever people start assuming that members of one gender are somehow superior to to the members of all other genders.

Quote from: KYLYKaHYT on February 12, 2009, 09:07:56 AM
This part really got my attention too. And I also believe it to be true, whether it is in regards to trans/homophobia, misogyny, or even lesbian/feminist separatism.

I think humanity does itself a great disservice whenever people start assuming that members of one gender are somehow superior to to the members of all other genders.

Absolutely agreed! I believe the world will be a better place when we accept and celebrate the wonderful diversity among our fellow humans and other life forms.

OK, I know I'm probably sounding all new agey hippie here 

Z

Quote from: Zythyra on February 12, 2009, 12:06:58 PM


OK, I know I'm probably sounding all new agey hippie here 

burn the witch 

Quote from: Pica Pica on February 12, 2009, 03:31:13 PM
burn the witch 

Jealous ?

I think that too, people should be more understanding/compassionate.

I've been talking with people I'd call "Real men" and they're like "destroy the weak, take what you want, power, money and sex is all that matters" and I am about the opposite.

It makes me a bit sad.

Quote from: ZaidaZadkiel on February 14, 2009, 08:02:11 PM
Jealous ?

I think that too, people should be more understanding/compassionate.

I've been talking with people I'd call "Real men" and they're like "destroy the weak, take what you want, power, money and sex is all that matters" and I am about the opposite.

It makes me a bit sad.

the world stinks mostly due to fatheads like that.

that and the women who are all push up the boobs, use sex to get what you want, manipulate men and then get mad at them for it...yeah.

basically, it's everybody else's fault ?

exactly!

Quote from: ZaidaZadkiel on February 14, 2009, 11:21:00 PM
basically, it's everybody else's fault ?

you're catching on! 

Quote from: Zythyra on February 12, 2009, 12:06:58 PM
Absolutely agreed! I believe the world will be a better place when we accept and celebrate the wonderful diversity among our fellow humans and other life forms.

OK, I know I'm probably sounding all new agey hippie here 

Z

Preaching to the choir honey!

But it's true and no one wants to hear it as it would require them to look outside of their comfort zone and in doing so threatening that comfort zone. And most people are too weak and scared to do that. I blame TV. ... uummm yeah. I really want to learn the ultimate questions to put people on the spot and make them justify their beliefs/opinions on 'alternative lifestyles' and the life going on outside of their boxes that they deem strange. The clever spoken word eludes me more often than not. hhmmmff.

With respect that video is not at all representative of Indonesia. Try being transgender in Aceh and you put your life at risk.

Even in Jakarta most transgender people one sees (waria) are sadly involved in prostitution. Believe me this is the truth, I have Indonesian family and know more than a few Indonesian Gays and Lesbians both here in the West and back in Java.

Worse still since the recent introduction of the "anti pornografi" legislation such behaviour is now together with homosexuality illegal throughout ALL regions of Indonesia and liable to prosecution or worse.

Sorry for the downer but sadly reality is far from the idyllic situation portrayed in that video.

I thought the video only represented one fairly well isolated tribe.