So, during a meditative-type session, I thought of of something rather intresting.  Let's say scientists can figure out how to cure gender dysphoria by somehow making the patient 100% okay with their current gender.  It costs around the same as transitioning.  What would you do?  Go ahead and transition or use this new treatment and why?

I would use the new treatment - can you please hurry and invent it.

I am happy in my current body and often wonder what drives me to dress. My cuurent emotional state is telling me that I am not a typical male and hence I like to dress feminine and do feminie things. I also like hearing and joining in any girly conversation arround. To me I am very much TG as I like both Male and Feminine things.

The only reason I can see me to transistion would be so I can do those feminine things all the time without the fear. If is is something within the brain that is making me want to do those feminine things and it can be stopped then I would be happy as I never thought myself as the female gender.

Alice

Quote from: Alice on July 19, 2006, 01:50:40 AM
The only reason I can see me to transistion would be so I can do those feminine things all the time without the fear. If is is something within the brain that is making me want to do those feminine things and it can be stopped then I would be happy as I never thought myself as the female gender.

I can kind of identify with this.  I do consider myself female, and I enjoy feminine and masculine things (generally more feminine).  I have often wondered if there were no gender steriotypes, and no one had definitions for "feminine" or "masculine" whatsoever if I would even think about what I was on the outside.

I have to say I would still go through with transition. I couldn't go into the other feeling right, even though I would be ok with the decision afterwards. As I'm sure most of us would agree who truely identify as the gender opposite our genetic sex. We dont want to "fix" our brain we want to fix our body.

If I have someone change my brain its no longer me. If I change my body, well I'm still me, I just look different than I used to.

I am Ok 90% of the time which is why I want to 'fix' the brain. I can live as a guy and do the things I want to do. I do not change who I am -  a carring and gental person.

Those other 10% of the times are the hard times. This week has ben rather emotional and it is drawing me back into facing me being TG. That feeling of something not right inside and that urge to feel completly happy with myself. It is infact a very small part of my - my hidden self. But it is there are starting to dominate me. I would be happy for it to just go so I can get on with my life.

Alice

for you I understand the brain "fix" technique. Especially if you don't identify as TS but rather CD. When I was younger and didn't know I was TS and thought I was CD or TV, I would have gone the same rout. But as far as us that are TS there is no brain "fix" without changing  who we are, IMO.

Quote from: Ellissa Ray on July 19, 2006, 02:17:47 AM
for you I understand the brain "fix" technique. Especially if you don't identify as TS but rather CD. When I was younger and didn't know I was TS and thought I was CD or TV, I would have gone the same rout. But as far as us that are TS there is no brain "fix" without changing  who we are, IMO.

Well, I feel kind of like what Kate was saying on that other thread.  I just feel like I really want to be a girl... But I don't know... If I was given the option to be perfectly happy the way I am, I don't know if I'd go for it or not.  If there was a price difference, I'm sure I'd go for whatever was cheaper, but when it comes down to which I'd rather have.. I don't know.

No, I haven't seen that episode, actually.  But I love star trek, so I'm sure I'll see it eventually

Quote from: cindianna_jones on July 19, 2006, 04:39:43 AM
Had it been available when I was facing transition, I would have taken it in a heartbeat.  I had a family and a good career.  I also had standing in my religion. Those were of great value to me.  I lost them all in transition. I figure that I lost 10 years to get back on my feet financially.  I faced discrimination and many other painful things that many of us have experienced.  Who would chose to take a life so hard compared to the easier way of getting cured?

Did you ever see the star trek episode about the world of androgenous people?  One fell in love with Ryker and wanted to be female.  Her society fixed her.  She was fine with it, even though it didn't set too well with me.

Fortunately, I have been able to win back the hearts of most of my family.  I'm happy with my current station in life.  I'm happy and am fulfilled. 

Cindi

Cindi,

She felt fine with her self only after they "fixed" her.  No doubt that attitude was also part of the solution.  What other things happened to her personality?

No.  Even though I have caused (and will cause) a lot of pain and have a looooong road to travel, I would not take the fix.  It would undo the tapestry that makes me who I am. 

Chaunte

This is the miracle cure question.


Would I take the new treatment? NO.

Personally that is death to me. It is like erasing my essence and filling the vessel with something foreign that does not belong. I AM female, I do not want that 'cured', thank you very much!  To be frank, that reminds me of something a cross between rape and lobotomy.

I am a woman (labelled as no-op TS if you so prefer), always was and always will be. The only reason SRS is not what I seek is that I love my wife dearly and this body is my gift to her to thank her for accepting me. Now for your question. All TS' in the room feel free to venture for coffee if you wish to, this may sound redundent here to all of us TS'!!lol
  A TS is woman in wrong body or vice-versa. We spend our lives in a 'scripted' role trying to learn to be our biological gender from those around us in a manner to be passable and acceptable in that gender. However, through our lives we end up at some point realizing something is wrong. For example, for me I heard "can't you just be yourself rather than act the way I do?" OK. I agree I was a bad actor. The reason we do this role thingy to pass is because there's nothing inside us,brain,soul,heart etc., that is male (or female in f2m TS) so we don't know how to be that part. So as to your question of curing our brains, would that include a shot of knowledge with it too? I sure as heck wasn't too good at that male role, passable w/ questions, but not good, and then you cure my brain of being a female leaves me with  no gender, which is like living in the twilight zone. Umm no thanx, I love me as who I am, Kimberly-Anne (Kim), woman in a costume!! 

Unless it is something that they can ID and treat right at birth...transition.

I did not do that great of a job at being a guy.  I could act and give the responses most expected but it was just me going through the motions since I was very young.  So if you offered it to me now, I would turn it down.  I am comfortable with myself and enough so that I am making friends and actually being social.

The way that I view this is that those who suffer from a "condition" are rather few ( Gender Dysphoria) is NOT what is so called wrong with a large population given that label.

Those of us that are a part of the spectrum of sex/gender identities, there is no cure for what is natural, regardless of how socially disruptive it may be. Society created one thing, God and Nature created another.... I am a part of that other.
Peace,
Taylor


Posted at: July 19, 2006, 03:26:29 PM

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Let me add, how do you "Cure" what is natural?

Peace,
Taylor

That's easy at this point.  I would transition.  I've already invested a lot and am starting to feel much better.  It would cost me extra to go the other way.  If this were right from the onset however, I would still choose transition.  My drive to be female is too strong.

Melissa

costs the same? mmn ... that means that I could not afford it, either one.


this begs the question: isn't it funny that probably the cure would have no obstacles and probably would be endorsed by the moral majority.
In the news there was an article in how new medical inventions are so exorbitantly expensive that people can't afford it, so is like there was no invention in the first place for them.

would i take the cure?
do i take the blue pill = stay in dreamland? or the red one = transition?
My name is NEO 

why? No reason.
" I know what you are searching for and why ... is like a splinter in your mind driving you ...
  I agree with Taylor in this: this is what Nature brought to the world. Am TransGendered, FatherMother my ancestors called it. I have no dysphoria about "my condition" actually I am euphoric that I am this way. 
am a ->-bleeped-<- and always be 1 this is Natural.

sheila18

Wow this is a tricky question... to change my body (limited by the science at hand) or to erase my who I am from my own mind..... the only reason the second one might be ok is if I didn't remember any of my previous life... well now that I stop and think about that I would go with the way I'm going now... loosing everything, although a lot of it was difficult,would be too high a price and to live fixed know that I wasn't who I had always been I think would wear on me just as bad.

I'd slap the crap out of the scientist and wonder why and how someone gave them a grant to cure something thats not a real diesease.

Then I probable grab a Corona and relax!!!

Chynna

Quote from: Chynna on July 28, 2006, 01:00:15 PM
I'd slap the crap out of the scientist and wonder why and how someone gave them a grant to cure something thats not a real diesease.

Then I probable grab a Corona and relax!!!

Chynna

You could grab the corona first and slap him with that.

Melissa

Quote from: Melissa on July 28, 2006, 01:09:55 PM
You could grab the corona first and slap him with that.

Melissa

Er no, Melissa. Potential beer wastage there. Sinful imo.

Dennis

Quote from: Dennis on July 28, 2006, 01:16:49 PM
Er no, Melissa. Potential beer wastage there. Sinful imo.

Dennis

I would agree with Dennis

Now Dennis pass the lime and lemon babes!

Chynna