Quote from: emoboi on March 16, 2009, 10:42:56 PM
because size zero is perfect to me and thin
thin=beautiful to me so of course i want to be thin

did this start in puberty, buddy? are you trying to diet off curves or something?

oh and ive seen the truth about size zero and i kind of do some of those things

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oh where to start um i remember when i was 11 i think after school was out so during summer i think i lose 15 to 20 lbs bringing my weight to um 111 lbs and im the same height i am now as i was then i think lol 5 5 i dont really remember why i stopped eating as much but it was prob because i was fat and around that time was when i got depressed so and its just been a problem ever since then but i started puberty at 9 so i dont know yea

i used to cut around 13-16 but ive stopped that so i guess thats good lol
i just see myself as discusting and fat and ugly all the bad things possible

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darn it lol, no i dont like curves and i would like them gone so i guess thats part of it

Dude. Size "0" is ugly. It's emaciated and a walking skeleton. It's disgusting. So where you get it's beautiful, I don't know. You need to talk to a therapist about this.

A size 5 is thin. A size 0 is a walking skeleton if you're not small enough to actually have meat on the body.

Your body, my body, all bodies have a genetic code telling it about how big it wants to be, its tough to fight it.  Going below it is dangerous, and everyone knows it. 

If 10% of males have an eating disorder, I'll bet its almost all OVER rather than UNDER indulgence.

Actually, Tekla, a lot of athletes follow the same techniques as girls to get thin. Especially male wrestlers (high school wrestlers), boxers, jockeys, gymnasts, male dancers....

My 10th grade bio teacher was one such and said it wasn't uncommon for others on his wrestling team to purge, etc.

Quote from: krptcmschfmkr128 on March 16, 2009, 11:24:04 PM
Actually, Tekla, a lot of athletes follow the same techniques as girls to get thin. Especially male wrestlers (high school wrestlers), boxers, jockeys, gymnasts, male dancers....

My 10th grade bio teacher was one such and said it wasn't uncommon for others on his wrestling team to purge, etc.

They don't do it for looks or clothing size, they do it to have an advantage in lower weight classes.

I certainly wasn't trying to tease... not in the slightest. It's simply a matter of trying everything to get the guy to realize that what he's doing is quite harmful to himself.

I am more than aware that guys have eating disorders... one of my best friends (male) is bulimic, and it's killing him, literally.

I'm sorry, but I don't want to see that ever happen to anyone else.

SD

Do you find other people who are walking skeletons attractive? Not many others do. I dunno, dude, but weight obsession does seem more a female thing, and I'm not taunting you with that, I'm just saying. And skinny guys are way uglier than skinny girls. And skinny girls are not attractive at all to me. Eat food and go to the gym imo. You want to obsess about body shape, put some muscle on.

Dennis

So, I went to a therapeutic boarding school (long story) where a lot of people had eating disorders / weight fixation issues.  The first thing you learn about talking to someone with an eating disorder / body image problem (as in weight as opposed to gender) is that trying to convince them how illogical their desire to be skinny is doesn't ever work.  Eating disorders / weight fixations have exactly nothing to do with food or weight.  These things are symptoms of underlying issues, and the best way to address them is to deal with those issues (which of course involves figuring out what those issues are).  I'm skeptical about how much of that can be accomplished on an internet forum, but I recommend that if we want to help emoboi, talking about how unhealthy size zero is really isn't going to be productive or helpful.

It's probably not good to be that thin. My metabolism is high so eating alot is needed. A very high percentage of americans are overweight and many are considered morbidly obese. So I guess some one has to balance the scale. No pun intended.

i do try to eat but i just dont like eating much
lol thats probably why i see a therapist but imo its not really doing anything but it is nice to have someone to talk to

Good to know you are seeing a therapist even if it's just to have someone to talk to.
Myles

Emo, is it possible that you've developed anorexia (and yes, that's what it's sounding like) as a way of trying to control a body you feel uncomfortable in? i mean being trans and all.

Quote from: Dennis on March 17, 2009, 02:14:12 AM
Do you find other people who are walking skeletons attractive? Not many others do. I dunno, dude, but weight obsession does seem more a female thing, and I'm not taunting you with that, I'm just saying. And skinny guys are way uglier than skinny girls. And skinny girls are not attractive at all to me. Eat food and go to the gym imo. You want to obsess about body shape, put some muscle on.

Dennis

'tis true, Dennis. Some do it for weight-class and others just to remain "thin." There was a time when the anorexic/bulemic problem was normally a female one. Now it seems about as prevalent with one sex as with the other.  And the boys seem to have gotten the idea through athletics.

Ther was an interesting study done some while ago, in the eighties I think, maybe a bit later than that, that took a group of college athletes, male, and consistently provided them with a barrage of body-image propaganda about being overweight and undesireable and stressing that thinness was beautifu;.

Guess what. The guys within a month or two had begun to "act" like the provedbial girls. They too stressed over weight, developed anorexic and bulemic methods of coping. So much so that the experiment had to be discontinued for health reasons to the subjects. It was presented last year in my last Women's Issues class as a cautionary tale type of thingy.

Quote from: Nero on March 17, 2009, 01:50:18 PM
Emo, is it possible that you've developed anorexia (and yes, that's what it's sounding like) as a way of trying to control a body you feel uncomfortable in? i mean being trans and all.

I suspect that you've put a finger on the difficulty, Nero.

Nichole

Quote from: Dennis on March 17, 2009, 02:14:12 AM
Do you find other people who are walking skeletons attractive? Not many others do. I dunno, dude, but weight obsession does seem more a female thing, and I'm not taunting you with that, I'm just saying. And skinny guys are way uglier than skinny girls. And skinny girls are not attractive at all to me. Eat food and go to the gym imo. You want to obsess about body shape, put some muscle on.

Dennis

Girls are far less concerned about how a guy looks, than guys (and girls) are about how a girl looks.

Without getting into much detail here, all I am going to say is this: as someone who once was very naive stupid and fought some of the same dragons as you, Emoboi, I urge you to say no to the size zero.



And not to sound too critical or anything, but before attempting to become a "size zero" or "any size" that can endanger your life, perhaps you should consider seeing a therapist who specializes in eating disorders.  I mean, really, this is not a game, and I am under the impression that you aren't aware of the severity of the situation you are in.


tink

Tink's right, love.

You might try a google search that says "eating disorder clinics ... (Fill in your state) and search. This isn't something you want to play around with, neither is your self-image.

Nichole

Quote from: emoboi on March 16, 2009, 06:10:36 PM
personally i want to be a size zero and i was at one point but working my way down to that again lol

what is ur opinion on size zero too unhealthy or perfect, etc.

For long pants, I usually wear size 6, which is comfortable to me.  For short pants or capris, size 4 is a little bit bigger for me and I usually wear size 2, because I have smaller hip than GG. For skirts, I sometimes wear size 0. My waist is about 26 inch, and height is about 6 feet. I think there is an inflation factor in women's sizing, especially in the U.S. I am a big eater, and my waist usually becomes 28 inch just after finishing dinner.

My waist: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?action=mgallery;sa=media;id=941

Barbie~~

I'm size 00, double zero. I eat a lot, and it's mostly fatty or sugary too, so I'm honestly surprised I've stayed so thin. I'm sure I'll even out in my twenties and suddenly balloon up, but I'm content to stuff myself until the time comes. I'd be happy to be bigger, I think I'm too thin now. So I guess I'm on the other end of the scale than emoboi.

omg, well u can have my jean size and i can have urs kk