Monday, March 23, 2009
Black People More Homophobic? You're Kidding, Right?
Posted by Monica Roberts at 2:02 AM

http://transgriot.blogspot.com/2009/03/black-people-more-homophobic-youre.html

One of the memes that has irritated many Black people gay, transgender and straight since the Prop 8 debacle has been the 'Black people are more homophobic' one.

You're kidding, right?

Every time I'm watching TV I see predominately white ministers such as James Dobson, other white fundamentalists, white dominated anti equality orgs and peeps like Tony Perkins leading the anti gay charge. Fred Phelps checks the 'white' box on his census forms, and the megachurches bankrolling these rights rollback or anti same gender marriage amendments have membership rolls of predominately European ancestry.

Hey, its America, if all else fails, blame the Negroes.

Quote from: tekla on March 23, 2009, 10:08:18 AM
Hey, its America, if all else fails, blame the Negroes.

And that appeared to receive a new shot in the arm among the male homossexual community in particular in the aftermath of Prop 8. Although a couple of reasonable and studious white fellows have laid the blame exactly where it was in large part due to lie: at the feet of the Anti-Prop 8 action committee of whatever it was, The people who honchoed the huge pushes for anti-Prop 8 action in Monterey, SF, and other surrounding and mostly overwhelmingly already anti-Prop 8 areas while ignoring any outreach in areas where there weren't already large numbers of people supporting the cause anyhow.

They seem to have forgotten at the time that communities like LA were part of Cali at all!

Nichole

They not only ran an almost textbook bad campaign - nothing passes at the state level in Cali without LA - Greater LA is only 14 million people after all.

But they also made a mistake so huge its almost hard to comprehend.  They somehow missed the fact or idea that Churches like the Catholic Church and the LDS could raise lots of money and organize people.  I mean who knew that about those churches?

Who knew any church was capable of turning out voters at all? I mean, that's just not done is it? I mean, how many people even go to church?

N~

Yeah, who knew that the Roman Catholic Church THE SINGLE RICHEST ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD, could raise money?  If you ever been to Salt Lake City, you find that the LDS church elders are not living in acute poverty either.  And as for politics and organizing and all that, well, the LDS has its own state, the Catholic Church has its own country.

O, you can even see the score with the LDS in D.C. Just take a turn around the outer ring and take a gander at that huge gold topped temple they got there!! They don't do that sorta thing with legos and gilt tinfoil!!

N~

Oh we got a big one up in the hills of Oakland too, LDS that is. 

I knew there were multiples, but I don't recall seeing one in Oakland when i was out that way in the late seventies.

N~

Gosh dear, its hard to miss, the the biggest, whitest thing in Oakland (no pun intended).  It sits 3/4 of the way up the hill and faces SSW to expose it to maximum direct sun, to make it even whiter.  It almost glows on a sunny day.

I think I was asking when it was built. I was last in Oakland in 1978.

the 95,000 square foot building - be glad you're not doing the floors - was opened in October of 1964.

Quote from: tekla on March 25, 2009, 06:32:49 PM
the 95,000 square foot building - be glad you're not doing the floors - was opened in October of 1964.

I must have been fixated on the Oakland/Alameda Colliseum or whatever it was when I'd go to enjoy getting drunk & making out at As games!!!

N~

I guess, because you could sure see it from the Coliseum, from home plate it is in the hills out over the outfield, before they closed the park in, which happened in the 80's.

Absolutely incorrect!  Depends on the local. In certain areas religion and culrure/society seem to influence a persons own thoughts. Why da "HELL" dis subject cum up? IT' S  A MACHO THING!

What's a macho thing?  What is not correct?

A) That the North tended to vote for gay marriage - against Prop 8 - and the South did not.

B) That the majority of the effort went into the North, and not to the South were it had to win, to win, as the South has more votes?

C) That the North tends to be more liberal than the South as a general rule?

D) That the largest money and organizing efforts were done in the LDS and RCC churches?

E) That there does not seem to be a sexual breakdown of the vote, that men and women did not have some overwhelming difference in the vote?  But regions did?