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If you could take a pill and no longer have the feelings, needs, etc. Would you

Started by Donna2468X, January 26, 2009, 02:13:18 PM

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Donna2468X

Have you ever wished you were not like you are; that you did not have the feelings  and needs that you do.  Do you hate living like this, always afraid someone would find out.
I have known I was a crossdresser since I was about 10 yrs. old, (although I didn't have name for it)  I am now 65.
I began like most of  and have grow to the point of regularly going out with my wife as girl friends.  When I first started going out I would always be read by several people (I was still wearing the same clothes I had at with all the blonde wig, high heels, and bright red lipstick.  Finally with my wife and other girlfriends that were more experienced, I caught on.  Unless, you really look feminine and have the voice, figure, and moves of a women; you should dress not to be noticied.  Even if you do have the looks, start out slow and learn the moves a women makes, I spent quite a few hours just sitting in the mall taking notes.  Finally when I was in my 30-40's it all came together and I could go anywhere I wished and was never read even by neighbors, relatives, friends that I would encouter various places.  I didn't make it a point to be "in their face" though.  When my wife and I go out we  are usually at our other house where the few people thatnwe do know, know me as Donna and I dress all the time there.
All of this is to let you know where I have been and where I have gone, not to different from many of you.  Here is the point of this article, I no longer dress, I have gotten rid of all my stuff.  severed all ties with my old girl friends, dropped out of Tri- ess.  Well this is not new is it we all purge from time to time.  The difference is I had not purged in over 40 years and then it was only a few things.  This "purge" was of a complete women's wardrobe with all the extras, three matching wigs that were brown with a little grey, you get the idea.  This all happened about a year and a half ago.  For the previous 20 years I had lived with my wife as a women 80% of the time.  Only wearing male clothes when she and I would go out together locally, shopping, church, visiting friends, etc.
So what happened, why did I change how I felt?  I really didn't all together change.  I still have some of the old feelings.  Over a period of two years, very slowly it just got to be not worth all the trouble to be a women.  Being a full time women is hard.  Putting on the make up every day and then taking it off every night and then going through my facial routine every night, shaving not only my face under arms but also waxing my legs, manicures pedicures, polish and the having to take it off when I was out as a man.  Keeping my wigs cleaned and styled.  Well you get the picture.  Over a period of time it just was not as much fun as it use to be.  Most noticable was a like of desire for the feel, smell, taste, and sight of myself in the mirror.  I know that many of us (yes I still consider myself a CD) continue into old age dressing.  But what happened to me.  My Testosterone levels dropped very low and even now that I have them back up to normal levels with self injections, I still don't want to go back.  I have also experienced this a number of years ago when I attempted to mimic pregency with various hormones and various levels to see if (1) I could increase the size of my breast, and (2) If I could start lactating and how much.  Both happened and I even was able to experience breast feeding an infant, my granddaughter and on another occassion another baby we were sitting for.  But that is another story,if your interested write me. 
What I believe happened was during the periods my Testosterone was low and therefore my estrogen/progesterone (both women and men have all three of the above hormones, they just vary in amount) were therefore unopposed, and they increased normally.
What I believe is that the reduced Testosterone affected my feelings as a man and reduced my need for crossdressing.  Why did the increase in female hormone levels not increase my CD feelings or perhaps make me feel more like a Transsexual/ transgendered.  Has anyone else experienced this or have any ideas as to why?
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Amy85

If I could take a pill to rid myself of the urge to crossdress.. well all my life up until now I probably would say yes and just live my life free of the doubts and secrets.  :(

But since coming here and reading about how proud and happy some others are with this part of their lives I'm not sure I would take it anymore. I have become much more comfortable with myself enfemme. I used to undress at the end of an evening at home as Amy and feel like I've done something bizarre and shamefull but I haven't felt that way in a while now.
I've chosen to stay deep in the closet for the time being, but even though I still have to worry about keeping Amy a secret from all those around me I am not sure I would give her up anymore. Besides, it's so much fun experimenting with all the different clothes  ;D
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vanna

noway.

a pill to take away your identity whatever that might be? not in a zillion years.
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Donna2468X

Amy, I appreciate your taking time to respond.  I think it is great that you feel this way and I hope you continue to feel good about yourself.

Post Merge: January 27, 2009, 02:43:31 PM

Ms. Delgato
Thanks for replying and a I wish you the best.
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Vicky

All I have to do is see a gorgeous dress, and NO WAY would I take such a pill.  I know the feeling you have in wanting it that way, and have certainly been there.  I have been out of the closet enough to be a part of the TG community where I live. (about 10 years)  While I am mad as h%!! about recently being "outed" to some rather self righteous family and family f(r)iends by a malicious relative, I would not trade the fun and caring times I have had with other "T" people and the GOOD people that see us as humans and friends.  When your closet has 51% clothing or your desired gender, you are probably too infected for a pill to work anyway. 
I refuse to have a war of wits with a half armed opponent!!

Wiser now about Post Op reality!!
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Janet_Girl

I do take a pill to take away the feelings, needs, etc.  It is call Estradiol.  And now I am fine And it took that damned male identity away and let me be free.   :D

Janet

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Shana A

Quote from: Janet Lynn on January 30, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
I do take a pill to take away the feelings, needs, etc.  It is call Estradiol.  And now I am fine And it took that damned male identity away and let me be free.   :D

Janet

Good answer Janet!

I wouldn't take a pill that changed who I am inside, I'm proud to be trans.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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yvbwsf

yes i would, without a doubt.

i would finally get sleep, i wouldnt cry every night, i wouldnt hate myself, i wouldnt be terrified, i wouldnt be alone, i wouldnt be in this confused mess!

mind you i can say yes now as the pill doesnt exist, there are 250 paracetomols which i suppose would do the same and i haven't taken them so maybe i wouldnt.
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Jessica M

Mark I'm glad you won't do anything drastic and as far as the pill goes I would never touch it!!!!

To me who we are is defined by body AND mind (more mind really) and in my case the struggle of mind over body but if there were a pill to change my body to fit my mind I would take it unless it erased my memories of being a (shudder) guy and a transexual. After all we are created as humans by what we do and the challenges we face.

I'm old for 18 ain't I :P

Claire xoxo
Imagining the future is a kind of nostalgia - Alaska Young in "Looking for Alaska" (John Green)

I will find a way, or make one!
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chrysalis

I'm sure I'd feel better if I took it, but I really wouldn't want to take it. Mind you this isn't out of that odd attraction to depression which exists, but I just feel it is too integral to my personality to change.
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Wends

No way. Why would I want to take away something that makes me feel so good about myself and so complete?
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Lyric

Anyone who would ask themselves such a thing is suffering from a greater problem than the desire to crossdress. I'd go so far as to say that if you suddenly lost interest in this, you would find some other way to be down on yourself. Self acceptance is something that can't be found in a pill or by a behavior change.

Crossdressing happens to be a part of the unique person that I am. I have made it a place in my life and have no desire to rid myself of it and I know from experience that would not improve anything.

Stop thinking of this as a disease and start loving yourself. Your crossdressing interest can be as much an asset as a deficiet, but either way, it's who you are.
"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life." - Steve Jobs
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Louise

I am also in my mid-60's and have been crossdressing since I was a child.  There is no way that I would take a pill to change myself.  While I am sure that hormone levels have some effect on behavior and feelings, I also think that the role of hormones can be overstressed.  There are deep psychological reasons for being transgender that go to the core of our identity.  We can use medications to try to change ourselves but if that goes against our sense of who we are then it is too high a price.
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Genevieve Swann

I would not and could not. Crossdressing is at least have of my being, maybe more. I would be destroying the better part of me. Some of my good friends have become accustomed to my Genevieve persona. I would not want to deprive them of that friend.

Kallisty

It has taken me this long to figure out who I am, I wouldn't trade it for the world or try to medicate it away.
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JD

Well actually I was able to experience that kind of pill, although not in pill form. When I served in the army I could leave behind my identity and howl with the dogs. Most of the time I was in a group and didn't even have the time to worry about things as being a CD, since all wear the same uniforms.
I think it was only after a while that I realized that something was missing, something that I considered to be a part of myself.
So if I gained full acceptance of the herd by taking this pill, but only by leaving a part of me behind, I think I couldn't do it.
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Katelyn

Quote from: Janet Lynn on January 30, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
I do take a pill to take away the feelings, needs, etc.  It is call Estradiol.  And now I am fine And it took that damned male identity away and let me be free.   :D

Janet

:D

Yes!  The only pill I'd ever want to take is to get rid of my male feelings and let me be free :)

Post Merge: February 25, 2009, 11:35:59 AM

Quote from: Lyric on February 13, 2009, 11:06:38 AM
Anyone who would ask themselves such a thing is suffering from a greater problem than the desire to crossdress. I'd go so far as to say that if you suddenly lost interest in this, you would find some other way to be down on yourself. Self acceptance is something that can't be found in a pill or by a behavior change.

Crossdressing happens to be a part of the unique person that I am. I have made it a place in my life and have no desire to rid myself of it and I know from experience that would not improve anything.

Stop thinking of this as a disease and start loving yourself. Your crossdressing interest can be as much an asset as a deficiet, but either way, it's who you are.

Great answer :)

Post Merge: February 25, 2009, 12:52:30 PM

Quote from: JD on February 23, 2009, 10:11:12 AM
Well actually I was able to experience that kind of pill, although not in pill form. When I served in the army I could leave behind my identity and howl with the dogs. Most of the time I was in a group and didn't even have the time to worry about things as being a CD, since all wear the same uniforms.
I think it was only after a while that I realized that something was missing, something that I considered to be a part of myself.
So if I gained full acceptance of the herd by taking this pill, but only by leaving a part of me behind, I think I couldn't do it.

I've gone through several cycles of denial and repression of my female self, and I always eventually come to a point of, like you, that realization that something is missing, as well as being horrified of my own life (no matter how good it is), and like my life is empty, and that feeling like I'm dead.  My female self is a part of myself and to lose that is to deny my own self as well as to deny myself of life and happiness.
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Tristan

heck yeah. its all i use to pray about when i was little but no such luck
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MarySue

I'm in my early 60's, and like most of you, I've been crossdressing since I was a kid.

Quote from: Donna J
Have you ever wished you were not like you are; that you did not have the feelings  and needs that you do.  Do you hate living like this, always afraid someone would find out.

Yes to all of those -- at least when I was younger. The last few years, though, I've come to accept CDing more. On the other hand, I do it less. That's partly because (as Donna pointed out) it's a lot of work, damn it! Particularly for us older gals. ;)

But it's also because I've spent more time at Susan's and other sites. Somehow that sublimates my desires to actually do the dirty deed.

Or maybe the fantasies I create in my head are far more satisfying that whatever reality I can construct -- as my mirror reminds me. Sigh!

As for taking that pill, my current answer is, "No way!" That would kill a central part of me. Then I'd be .... normal. Who wants that?? Yuck!

Oh yes, like Vicky, all I have to do is see a gorgeous dress, and I know I don't want to change. Now if I'd just look decent in it ....
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Just Kate

Yes I'd take the pill.  I am not whole right now.  My transgendered brain is a defective one - one that was meant to be male, but because of unexplainable circumstances did not develop the correct sense of gender identity.  A pill that would fix my brain would make me the person I was meant to be - even if it is not the person my brain tells me I am.

Not taking the pill would be like a schizophrenic saying, "I don't want to take a pill to stop me believing the CIA is coming after me, because they REALLY are!"  If they believe the delusion presented by their brain, they are unlikely to take it.  However if they can be convinced that it is truly only a fabrication of a brain that is malfunctioning, they can be convinced to take the pill enabling them to lead healthy normal lives.

So it is for me.  If I were to believe what my brain tells me, that I'm really a girl, I wouldn't take the pill as I'd feel I was forsaking my identity or somehow changing my core identity.  However, realizing this belief is false, and that a male identity is what I should have had, the pill seems like the best option.

I'd like to note though, that I do appreciate the things I've learned being a transgendered individual and the experiences I've had to this point, however, if a pill would help me be a happier and more successful of a person and fix a problem with my brain that never should have happened, then I'd take it in a heartbeat.

It is too bad it doesn't exist.
Ill no longer be defined by my condition. From now on, I'm just, Kate.

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