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How does Age fit in?

Started by Saraloop, March 25, 2009, 06:54:51 PM

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Saraloop

konnichiwa! :)
Haven't posted in quite a while.

I was wondering how you all think about feeling an age that conflicts with the body to the point of something similar like being transgender, but instead of feeling like 1 sex or another, feeling a certain age... I know lots of people want to stay young, but in my case it seems pretty extreme. Ever since going past the age of 12, it feels like I've lost such a big part of me that I can't even consider myself to be anything human. The biggest thing has been not being able to express what I truly feel.  The response from people around is just too big for me to be ok with, as it is. :(
What do you guys think?
I wonder if there's people out there that feel like they should be really old :S
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Pica Pica

When I was little and rake thin and short, I used to hate it and want to grow up soon.
Now I am of average height, fairly plump and have a solid physical presence in a room, I feel much more myself. I reckon I will feel good when I am an older man - I think I was born to be slightly statesmanlike. I feel I am just waiting to be Sam Johnson.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Saraloop

Quote from: Pica Pica on March 25, 2009, 06:58:20 PM
When I was little and rake thin and short, I used to hate it and want to grow up soon.
Now I am of average height, fairly plump and have a solid physical presence in a room, I feel much more myself. I reckon I will feel good when I am an older man - I think I was born to be slightly statesmanlike. I feel I am just waiting to be Sam Johnson.

That's funny because I want to be the exact opposite. I want to be small and slim. Dunno who Sam Johnson is :P
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Nicky

With age comes responsibility. Perhaps that is why you don't want to grow up, just like Peter Pan?

I'm looking forward to getting older. The older I get the more I like it. I get confidence, wisdom, experience, more happyness, better computer games, better credit rating, deeper love, grey hair (I found another  :D, looks like I will go silver at the temples), satisfaction, life well lived. Not that I am not living in the moment. I love having a relatively youthful body and using it.

I don't think I have any age dysphoria. Though now that I have come out and get to express myself I am feeling like a teenager again, which is weird in the context of my 30's body.
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Pica Pica

Quote from: Saraloop on March 25, 2009, 07:00:31 PM
Dunno who Sam Johnson is

you people really   :)  Not keeping up to date with my heroes and obsessions.

regarded as one of the only truly great english critics. essaist and writer of the first comprehensive english dictionaries. The hub which all 18th century literary life surrounded, and a funny man to boot.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Nicky

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Pica Pica

everyone had wigs then, sammy's were usually singed because he had poor eyesight (as you can see) and used to hold a candle up close and not notice that he was burning it.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Nero

Quote from: Saraloop on March 25, 2009, 06:54:51 PM
konnichiwa! :)
Haven't posted in quite a while.

I was wondering how you all think about feeling an age that conflicts with the body to the point of something similar like being transgender, but instead of feeling like 1 sex or another, feeling a certain age... I know lots of people want to stay young, but in my case it seems pretty extreme. Ever since going past the age of 12, it feels like I've lost such a big part of me that I can't even consider myself to be anything human. The biggest thing has been not being able to express what I truly feel.  The response from people around is just too big for me to be ok with, as it is. :(
What do you guys think?
I wonder if there's people out there that feel like they should be really old :S

well, i don't know how this relates to you androgynes, but i always felt the same way after age 12 (well age 11 really) because it was so much easier to feel like a boy before puberty. then all the girl body stuff just ruined eveyrthing for me and i was never myself again.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Nero

Quote from: Pica Pica on March 25, 2009, 07:07:30 PM
you people really   :)  Not keeping up to date with my heroes and obsessions.

regarded as one of the only truly great english critics. essaist and writer of the first comprehensive english dictionaries. The hub which all 18th century literary life surrounded, and a funny man to boot.

oh you're there. just slap a wig on.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Jaimey

sam johnson aside (random), I think for me puberty did it.  When I was little, gender didn't matter and we were all the same size.  I went through puberty earlier than a lot of kids, so I was quickly one of the tallest in my class before middle school and I was really awkward then.  It was better before all that mess.  My body was way ahead of the rest of me.
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Saraloop

 Yeh I think the odd event of puberty is definitly an unwelcomed change when you don't feel you should be turning into something weird that doesn't fit with what you had in mind. For me the gender does play a role, but it feels like it's mostly the size and build, as well as the added expectations from society. :S
It's stupid, why should I suppress how I want to act just because I'm older now.

As for Sam Johnson, that's quite an interesting direction .. hehe
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El

I am a naturally childish person, i like to feel innocent and irresponsible, i think in a way i am just plain terrified of growing up, partially due to androgyny partly due to plain fear of the future......
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Lokaeign

I'm actually fairly comfortable as the age that I am (35).  If anyone offered me the chance to go back and be a kid again I would probably either run screaming off the nearest cliff or beat them to death with their own shoes.  I find trying to survive as an adult far, far less of a struggle than trying to survive childhood in my parents' home.  The only thing I hate about being 35 is being 35 with no achievements and nothing to be proud of.  That sucks.  (TBH I get kind of wound up at times by the whole androgyne = unicorns eternal children pwetty pwetty faiwies stuff.)

Physically I had a fairly early puberty, so the last androgynous body I remember would have been about 9.  I would not want my 9-year-old body back since my mental ideal is a mature adult male or male-of-centre body.  Having a small, weak body would be no better  than having a big fat one.
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Sophie90

I think I should be 19. 20 maybe. Or 24.

Fortunately, I'm 18, so these are all coming up soon.

Being 18 has sucked though. Too much change and pressure. :P
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Laurry

Maybe I watch too much Monday Night (American) Football, but that picture of Sam Johnson looks a whole like John Madden to me.....BOOM!

As far as the age thing...puberty was a bummer--dang hair growing everywhere.

I did, however, go through feeling like a teenager when I got divorced (after 20+ years), and once again when I truly accepted being TG.  Of course, as an old fart, it could just be a "second childhood"...

...L
Ya put your right foot in.  You put your right foot out.  You put your right foot in and you shake it all about.  You do the Andro-gyney and you turn yourself around.  That's what it's all about.
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Miniar

Half the time I feel OLD!.. mostly because I've lost patience with the infantile idiocy of people my age.
The rest of the time I feel Young!.. mostly because I've no patience with people trying to be serious about things that aren't worth being serious about.

But all the time, I feel age as a number is irrelevant. That the number of times you've rode this spinning orb of rock and other matter around the sun is not a good measure of your maturity or ability to amuse yourself.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Jaimey

Quote from: Laurry on April 03, 2009, 12:43:22 PM
Maybe I watch too much Monday Night (American) Football, but that picture of Sam Johnson looks a whole like John Madden to me.....BOOM!

Oh my god!  He totally does!  "There's a guy who when he runs, he goes faster!"


I feel rather ageless.  I don't mind being a kid and playing sardines or having scavenger hunts with my friends (we range mid twenties to early thirties).  But I am also more mature than people my parents age and I get along with anyone...in fact, I love talking to older people (senior citizens are awesome :D).
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Pica Pica



I never heard of this man, but he does
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Jaimey

John Madden is a commentator and former American football coach.

Frank Caliendo - Letterman - Impressionists Week

this is Frank Caliendo as John Madden on David Letterman.
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Saraloop

 So most of you don't have much of an issue with age except puberty itself, right? I think for me it's much more than just that.

Has anyone heard of anything like someone having age dysphoria?
Maybe like those guys that went into a coma for 20 years or something.

..I think it just all comes down to not being able to act like one's true self. ..  if I could I'd like to eliminate all of society's unreasonable restrictions, both on gender roles and age roles, and everything else judgemental.. as long as someone doesn't harm others, we should be able to be and act how we truly want. sure it'd be a bit chaotic in some situations, but that would also make things more interesting.

Revolution!
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