OK, so maybe not 'libido' necessarily, but effectiveness. I know that women can taper off earlier than men with the sexual desires, if at all, but I've been noticing something as of late. Since I was 4 I've felt like I should have been a boy and obviously that feeling has never gone away, but it's almost like the closer(or longer I guess) I am to finally starting the first step to make something happen, I feel less attached from my female parts.

I'll look at my breasts and they just seem so alien to me. I'm not big by any means, I'm an A cup and I barely fit into a bra, but they just seem like something odd on my chest. Like it's not apart of me at all, I can almost picture my male chest by looking beyond the breasts in my mind. And now, if I try to pleasure myself it seems like more work than it's worth and I end up feeling frustrated because it's not as intense anymore.

I like that it confirms to me even more that I really know what I want, but it's frustrating in that I can't really get off like I used to. D:

Anyone ever had this happen?

It mostly sounds like a psychological vs. physical problem...I'm betting it will go away once you start T. Perhaps the frustration with other parts of your life are carrying over to your sexual experiences?

Do you think of it as "jacking off" vs female masturbation? Personally, I would make myself feel really uncomfortable if I thought of those parts as what they really are during masturbation or sex.

I'm pretty sure T will aid me in this, but I don't even know when I'll be close to getting on it.

I do find that when I think of it as jacking off and that I imagine myself with male parts it does help, but it's hard to keep it up when you don't actually have them.

Oh yeah, big time.

In my case the factory equipment was somewhat (ok, very) unreliable from the start, but since coming out to myself and others it's completely non-operational. The last 3 months killed off the last of the mental processes associated with "that task" also. I couldn't take matters into my own hands even if I wanted to.

I think it's got to do with the disconnect between the physical and the mental that happens in "people like us" (sorry to be so general about it). The closer you get to treatment, the greater the disconnect gets, the less things work. At least, that's what I've found.

From what I've read, things may get better post-T, as the physical and mental come into line. I'm still pre-T, so I can't say for sure, and the effects are different for everyone anyway.

Quote from: Teknoir on May 20, 2009, 08:08:44 PM

I think it's got to do with the disconnect between the physical and the mental that happens in "people like us" (sorry to be so general about it). The closer you get to treatment, the greater the disconnect gets, the less things work. At least, that's what I've found.

i agree. and also the fact that if you dislike your body and feel ashamed by it, disgusted by it or whatever, the less enjoyment it will be able to give you. i recently went through a low libido patch myself and that seemed to be a big part of it

I thought as much. I just see guys who either can't get off until they're on T because of their parts and ones who don't care, whatever works will do. And I hadn't heard of anyone just losing the drive. It's annoying.

On the positive side, I've tried drawing it out. Like pen and paper, and it's surprisingly relieving. I don't know, I've never felt right about drawing it, I always feel weird after but it works for now I guess. =/

Quote from: Monty on May 21, 2009, 06:34:20 AM
I thought as much. I just see guys who either can't get off until they're on T because of their parts and ones who don't care, whatever works will do. And I hadn't heard of anyone just losing the drive. It's annoying.

On the positive side, I've tried drawing it out. Like pen and paper, and it's surprisingly relieving. I don't know, I've never felt right about drawing it, I always feel weird after but it works for now I guess. =/

Once I was identifying as male, i didn't have any interest in having sex 'as a woman' any longer.  once I was on t for a while and passing, I had no problems using the factory equipment to get off.  To me, it was all about my perception of certain sex acts being 'male' or 'female.'  One thing that was EXTREMELY helpful was both my ex- girlfriend and i referring to my body and the sex it had with masculine labels.  (clit becomes dick, oral sex becomes BJ, etc)  give that a whirl and see if it helps.