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DSM / GID - The Controversy

Started by Steph, May 25, 2009, 07:54:46 PM

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NicholeW.

I agree and mentioned that tekla.

Yet, much as a mess that it is, and it is, some of us do/have/can get insurance coverages for everything from hormones to surgery.

O. btw, for the most part a good diagnostician can do exactly for GID what I did briefly for ASP. But a good many TSes would prolly hate that as well. Then they'd be "crazy" with no recourse for a medical disorder.

I do agree about a form of intersex that has greater or lesser symptomatology, Brittany. But that particular hatchling isn't fledged and ready to fly just yet.


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Lori

Quote from: Nichole on May 26, 2009, 09:07:21 PM
I agree and mentioned that tekla.

Yet, much as a mess that it is, and it is, some of us do/have/can get insurance coverages for everything from hormones to surgery.

I'd love a list of insurance companies that cover it. Seems like every time we change there is ALWAYS an inclusion in there for transgendered.
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NicholeW.

Ask Claire de Lune about that, Lore. Hormones seem readily available through insurance if the diagnosis is correct. GID will not be the correct diagnosis.
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Lori

Quote from: Nichole on May 26, 2009, 09:14:07 PM
Ask Claire de Lune about that, Lore. Hormones seem readily available through insurance if the diagnosis is correct. GID will not be the correct diagnosis.


Ok thank you. I sent a couple of PM's to you. I don't know if you got them.
"In my world, everybody is a pony and they all eat rainbows and poop butterflies!"


If the shoe fits, buy it in every color.
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tekla

Its not the insurance company, its how the policy is written.  The insurance companies will be only too happy to cover it, provided the buyer is willing to pay higher premiums.
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Miniar

Quote from: Lori on May 26, 2009, 07:07:20 PM
Wow that was well said. I agree so much with what you said.  I would like to ask a question though.

Do physical needs cause mental needs? In other words is there a physical problem we are not conscious of that is causing a mental condition that we are aware of?

I say it is a physical need that drives the mental process.

I believe it's physical in origin, yes, but that doesn't negate that All of the symptoms are mental.
And hunger is a poor analogy as it does cause physical pain and damage to the system if left unabated.
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And because I want to answer this question:
Quote from: Alyssa M. on May 26, 2009, 06:56:36 PM
why is GID different from homosexuality that it should be in there?

Homosexuality doesn't cause dysphoria with one's own body. It can cause issues, mental ones, when dealing with an environment that is hostile or simply doesn't understand, but those issues are transient and moving to another town can be enough to solve all that.
Moving to another town is less dangerous, less invasive, and it's irreversible, while the treatment for GID (hormones and surgery when wanted) causes permanent, irreversible changes to one's body, it's very invasive, and potentially dangerous, and to top it off, the post-treatment man or woman is still at risk for persecution and non-acceptance at the hands of the rest of the world. It's complicated, difficult, and the therapists and doctors involved need to help the transsexual be sure this is what he or she "needs" to do to be able to function.
This (GID) also causes the person who has it a Lot more psychological stress and issues, than homosexuality, in most places in the world at this time, regardless of treatment.



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