and when I talk about gay community, the transgenders were a part of it. We never ever considered them not! Bisexuals, crossdressers, were never ever not considered part of it! We were all gay! I'm kind of sad that all this division and fracturization has come about.
Sad to say, that division even occurs in here with '->-bleeped-<-r than thou' notions, people referencing crossdressers as 'guys in a dress' and the rest.