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Delusions of Grandeur

Started by cassie09, June 05, 2009, 08:24:48 PM

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Hypatia

Delusions? Why, of course not. I just tell myself:

And I shall be not dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Strong as the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!

Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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tekla

At least when I steal stuff I cite the author.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Nikki

I stopped using LSD a long time ago.

I think this is about the only influential substance that could ever even begin to make me believe I'm ever gonna look anything remotely close to a supermodel.
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K8

Paring our expectations down to reality can be tough. :D

My sister and I are almost identical in size - same height, same general build.  She has the advantage of never having had testosterone-poisoning, but other than that we're very similar.  I know I'll never be as pretty as she is, but I like to think that I have more world knowledge that shines out.

At this point in my life, I just want people not to gag when they see me. ;D

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Hypatia

Quote from: tekla on June 08, 2009, 03:11:35 AM
At least when I steal stuff I cite the author.

You troll, that wasn't stealing, that was an obvious humorous allusion* whose source is well known and which I expect would be widely recognized. What is your problem, anyway? Especially since you never have anything to contribute that is relevant to transgender. Your trolling has gotten a lot worse lately. Why don't you just back off?

*FYI:
al⋅lu⋅sion 1: an implied or indirect reference especially in literature  ; also : the use of such references

I think the people here are smarter and more literate than you give them credit for.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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tekla

I try not to assume anything, it always messes up in the end.  And not everyone reads that sword and sorcery stuff, even if most of the people you know do.  I grew up a very avid reader and never read that thing till well after college.

Second, the original, prime, and cardinal sin in the whole Delusions of Grandeur deal is thinking you are right, and if people disagree with you, they must be wrong.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Hypatia

Quote from: tekla on June 08, 2009, 09:11:36 PMSecond, the original, prime, and cardinal sin in the whole Delusions of Grandeur deal is thinking you are right, and if people disagree with you, they must be wrong.

Try telling yourself that for a change.

BTW, the Fellowship of the Ring movies, which the quote came from, have been seen by many millions far and wide. It's only the 15th highest grossing film of all time. It's a safe bet it would be recognized by many here. Again, the people here are quite literate and culturally aware, and The Lord of the Rings, which you dismiss as "that sword and sorcery stuff" is only "one of the most popular and influential works in 20th-century literature," whose "enduring popularity has led to numerous references in popular culture." (cite) Hardly an obscure source for a quote. In this case, your assumptions are clearly, demonstrably wrong.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Kyla

As someone is hasn't began to transition, but planning to take the appropriate steps next month or the following month - I can't help but be curious what I will look like.

I suppose I can only speculate; this is going to bother me for the rest of the night   :-\
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tekla

Oh I'm sure I am wrong.  I just know that if I used that quote with people I know it would be a 50-50 deal if people would get it or not.  Depends on the group I'm talking to.  Hence, I can't be sure, so I cite (its also a bad academic habit, but that's another story - hit a writers block, time for the block quote).  And I didn't dismiss it, I just called it what it is in genre form.  And I like the word stuff, a lot.  Everyone knows what it means, so I never have to explain it, and I'm one happy kitty kat when I don't have to explain.

Oh yeah, seeing the move is not literate, its seeing the movie.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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barbie

Quote from: Kristi on June 05, 2009, 09:16:27 PM
I think we all go through that at some phase.  It is nothing to worry about.  It is hard not to because out hopes get so high.  The problem is when we look in the mirror and see someone resembling a guy and it all falls apart.  I think the hardest part is just learning to be comfortable with who we are.  I had this odd fantasy of wanting to look like Olivia Newton John in Grease.  Well, needless to say, it did not happen.  But I just have to be content with passing most of the time.

Kristi

I remember I saw the movie Grease when I was about 13 years old, and thought she was so much beautiful to be my ideal. But, nowadays, oops, No... No.... No.

My stereotype on ideal woman has changed so dramatically  :D.

Barbie~~
Just do it.
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Janet_Girl

What is it about her?  I did too.  I even learned all her songs.

Janet
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stacyB

I think it was that she oozed femininity. She could pass as frilly and sweet and still achieve sultry and vampy.... but she never left you doubting that she was a woman! And unlike other celebrities she was never full of herself...
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Tammy Hope

Quote from: barbie on June 09, 2009, 12:11:47 AM
I remember I saw the movie Grease when I was about 13 years old, and thought she was so much beautiful to be my ideal. But, nowadays, oops, No... No.... No.

My stereotype on ideal woman has changed so dramatically  :D.

Barbie~~

Oh my yes. At any age in my life I'd have very much wanted to look like ONJ at that age, right up to her current appearance.

I'm not sure if she'd be my first choice anymore but she's still really close to the top of the list.

Valarie Bertinelli is up there too.

Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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barbie

It is not her problem, but mine: an image I want to look like.

When I was puberty, I did not like skinny women, but nowadays I admire them. Kate Moss would be one of my ideal images, but of course I was a little disappointed at her recent drug scandal. Nevertheless, her Calvin Klein Ads are still impressive to me.

http://www.theworldsbestever.com/kmoss23.jpg

Barbie~~
Just do it.
  • skype:barbie?call
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V M

I've often wished to look like or as pretty as various women. But at my age, I'm just glad to still get some compliments

Funny story...When I was much younger and doing music, I had my hair bleached and cut to look like Sting. Several people told me I looked like Brigitte Nielsen  :laugh:
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

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- V M
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tgirljuliewilson

and my ffs doctor joked about my ending up looking like ernest borgnine.....

is it better to endure the slings an arrows?  Or accept that one will never be accepted?
O I wish I wish I wish I wish
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barbie

About 10 years ago, my first son played with a barbie doll, and it soon become worn out. One day, I looked at the naked doll, noticing that her body shape could be similar to mine, although at that time I did not clearly recognize my transsexualism. I thought that my body shape as a man is as much bizarre as the humble naked doll.

Anyway, my ideal image is like:
http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/images/b/barbie_and_friends-12263.jpg

Barbie~~
Just do it.
  • skype:barbie?call
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Jessica M

Personally i always convinced (sometimes still do) myself ill look like a few of my gg friends but i know deep down i never will. they are so so different to me.

Barbie i know wat ur saying but u reminded me of this thing i saw a while ago where it had wat the barbie doll would look like if she was a real woman and she would be close to 7" tall with legs and a neck far too long and thin to support her body.
I thought it was funny that the supposed "perfect female figure" is literally unatainable and freakish.

Claire xoxo
Imagining the future is a kind of nostalgia - Alaska Young in "Looking for Alaska" (John Green)

I will find a way, or make one!
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barbie

Quote from: Claire on June 10, 2009, 05:11:05 PM
Barbie i know wat ur saying but u reminded me of this thing i saw a while ago where it had wat the barbie doll would look like if she was a real woman and she would be close to 7" tall with legs and a neck far too long and thin to support her body.
I thought it was funny that the supposed "perfect female figure" is literally unatainable and freakish.

Claire xoxo

Claire,

It is true that the barbie dolls are unrealistic. Yesterday night, I happened to wach a TV program "Barbie fashion show": http://www.nitrolicious.com/blog/2009/02/17/barbie-fashion-show-2009-collection-backstage/

There are some women who are claimed to be close to Barbie:

http://www.joetheprogrammer.net/images/barbie6big.jpg

And a korean version of barbie doll:
http://z.hubpages.com/u/402846_f520.jpg

In my country, the nickname of an actress is barbie doll:
http://popseoul.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/hanchaeyoung_080925_1.jpg

My son and daughter also loved barbie dolls. My daughter still loves Barbie things such as barbie toothpaste and PINK shoes  :angel:

Barbie~~
Just do it.
  • skype:barbie?call
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Alyssa M.

Quote from: tekla on June 08, 2009, 03:11:35 AM
At least when I steal stuff I cite the author.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Post Merge: June 11, 2009, 01:38:07 AM

To answer the question, yes, I definitely have moments of slight delusion. And greater delusion, when I think that I can look like Gisele Buendchen -- hey, look, she has middle brown slightly wavy hair and moderately dark eyes and full eyebrows and a light olive complexion and a few freckles and high cheekbones and a strong nose that turns down just a bit and a fairly strong jawline and chin just like me!!!

Okay, maybe not so much. Most of the time I'm fairly content with the look I can achieve now with a bit of work, and more content to know that letting the hrt do its work and the possibility of having ffs will make me look just fine, at least to my own reckoning. So my struggle is to be comfortable in my presentation, to reacquaint myself with the image in the mirror, and not swing wildly in the image I have in my mind of how others see me. So, basically teenage identity crisis stuff. I'm a lot more worried about how I sound than how I look. I have delusions of sounding like Frederica von Stade. :D (Those ones are really far-fetched!)
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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