Quote from: Annwyn on May 15, 2009, 02:33:46 AM
... I just know that I really hate ugly people, and what's even worse is I hate ugly people who pretend they're all that.  Sure they might be nice and fun to talk to, but god it makes my stomach turn over.

We're all entitled to opinions, but "ugly" seems like one of those qualities that depends on the eye of the beholder. It's a fairly subjective decision as to who/what is and who/what isn't.

Besides, luv, who's to say you'll not need to have two chuck bags ready in the examining room? One for you and one for the patient, just in case? LOL.

Pass and not be hot. That is quit simple.

Attractiveness is all subjective. Many people think I'm cute/hot, many people don't. Whatever. I don't think I could have handled not passing as a guy for much longer... I feel SO much better about myself now that I do pass.

As a girl, I had so many guys hit on me that it was miserable to go out to a bar or anything. I don't know if that means I was "hot," or what. Now, as a guy, girls tell me I'm cute... if they're my friends. Gay guys who are into masculine guys seem to like how I look, but I still wish I didn't look SO masculine. I would've preferred to look more androgynous, because T's effect was such that now, most people see me as some uber-masculine guy... which is far from who I am inside.

So... I don't know. Yes, I would far rather pass than be considered "hot."

SD

I'd prefer a passable appearance. If anyone thinks I'm hot great. I love compliments but hands off.

yup. if i could not pass i would just rather die!

when starting my transition i had arguments as to why i needed to wait. such as;
a.) when i lose this weight
      the reply i got, there are no women overweight?
b.) after i get some work done on my face?
      the reply i got, there are no women who need work done
      their faces
c.) when i .................
      the reply i got, there are no women ..................


so what's my point?

get to where you want to be, where your the most comfortable with yourself and everyone else will accept you ( ok most will accept you, there are those religous nuts who will never accept you ) and you can be yourself.

there are beautiful women
there are ugly women
there are fat women
there are skinny women
there are women in between
and there is YOU


and the world needs you to be YOU



p.s.

i was informed my new nickname (among my family of friends anyway) is Mary Poppins

But if you don't have to be one of the fat or ugly ones, why do it - how people look (and the kind of weight they carry) has a huge effect on their outlook and options.

Interesting question and lot's of good answers.  I didn't answer the poll, because I don't accept any of the choices.  I'de like to say I don't care, but I do, and I think everyone does.  For the most part, we all try and present the best way we can.  When someone says they don't care, don't try, and then it is reflected in their appearance, I'm not sure I believe them.  Passing and being "hot" and/or attractive, is probably the goal for most of us, and being "hot" is partially a state of mind, and in the eyes of the beholder.  As for a statement about "ugly people", I believe it is what is in your heart that makes you ugly, certainly not your appearance.

Quote from: tekla on June 29, 2009, 08:46:16 AM
But if you don't have to be one of the fat or ugly ones, why do it - how people look (and the kind of weight they carry) has a huge effect on their outlook and options.

That's very true.

I'm pretty certain if I were 30 pounds heavier I'd be a lot nicer to people.

Oh Toni dear, come and sit next to Mama Kat, because I have eclairs, cream puffs, Tiramisu.  What flavor do you want your milkshake in dear?

Quote from: tekla on June 29, 2009, 05:44:51 PM
Oh Toni dear, come and sit next to Mama Kat, because I have eclairs, cream puffs, Tiramisu.  What flavor do you want your milkshake in dear?

Just give her four or five taco salads from Taco Bell. That should get her up five or six pounds by themselves. Or show her the way to Mickey D's for four meals per day for a couple of months. All sorts of great ways to gain weight, no desserts required!

It can be a lot more sexual with deserts.  Smearing a taco or burrito on someone somehow lacks the elegance of doing the same act with a good cream puff.  Truly.

Quote from: tekla on June 29, 2009, 05:53:44 PM
It can be a lot more sexual with deserts.  Smearing a taco or burrito on someone somehow lacks the elegance of doing the same act with a good cream puff.  Truly.

Truthfully, barbecue sauce and ranch are the hottest things that can ever be put on the human body and truly enjoyed in a sexual nature.

There's pretty much no substance that can take on my metabolism.  I even pulled off 3 weeks living off of fried chicken and chili/cheese tots and only had like half an inch covering the bottom part of mah sixpack.

But chyeah.  Fat people who think they're sexy should um... yeah.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting the melted cheese and chocolate sauce ready.

O, a fondue-Toni!!

Topic: Would You Rather Be Hot And Not Pass, Or Pass And Not Be Hot ? ;-)

Is there such a thing as being 'hot' without passing? that would be hot as in a hot male then?

I'm happy to pass and not be hot thanks!