i know this is an old thread but here i go anyway. maybe we can reopen this.

from an early age i "knew" i was different but i didn't know why or what. i knew i liked to wear girls clothes and play with my sisters toys more than my own but i never put the thought together that i was a girl. many of my relatives did treat me like the girls so maybe that was clue that pased me by, i was just happy being me.
i remember the day my father caught me putting a barbie dress on my g i joe.( he liked it very much thank you.........g i joe that is   lol). after that was the "talks" about what a boy does, which again just went over my head.

today i look back over my life and "see" the signs i missed. i see the way my parents and my extended family treated me. the way my babysitters treated me and the way every girl i knew wanted to be my friend but not my girlfriend. how they liked putting makeup on me and more importantly how much i enjoyed it all.

to end this i'd like to say that so far every person i've come out to to date has said basicly the same thing: "well that explains everything"

so yes i was born female, lived somewhere i between and now i am on the road to sanity

I didn't 'know I was different' until I started school at which point I found out that I was different in a whole lot of ways, not just the gender deal.  My first lessons in First Grade with good old Sister Rambo were of her teaching "This is an "A", it's the first letter of the alphabet and it makes a sound like "Aaaaaa' (she sounded like a sick cow, that phonics stuff sucked as a way to teach reading) so I asked if I could just read, since I knew that.  I got a trip to the principals office, Sister Lucifer, where I had to prove to her that I could read, so she took me to the Monsignor, who also had me do stupid tricks, and in the end their sage advice was "I should learn with the rest of my class" at which point I did learn.  I learned how to disrupt, attract attention to myself, cutup, and create first grade mayhem in the class room.

That I liked to dress like a girl at home seems like less of a problem than my constant behavior problems at school.

Born with male genitalia but have come to realise that there is no more questioning or fighting the true me. All of my thoughts and desires are female. It IS me. I feel gifted.

Quote from: Cindi Jones on January 07, 2007, 06:09:26 PM
Perhaps it just boils down to semantics but I really think that both statements mean pretty much the same thing.  I never felt like a woman trapped in a man's body.  Logically, that statement never made sense to me.  But I always wanted to be a girl from my earliest memories.

Me too.  I always thought I would be happier as a girl/woman but I could see I wasn't.  (Maybe I'm just too literal. ) 

I am now ten weeks into living fulltime as Katherine and am still not sure whether I was born a girl/woman or that I am or ever will be a "real" woman.  And I really don't care.  However, I do know now that I was right when I was 4 years old - I am happier as a girl/woman.

- Kate

Not really sure. I've been tossing the idea around and such... I mean, I have friends who say I act more female than male and some friends who say the opposite. I'm trying to figure it all out and such.

To echo the thoughts of another poster several pages back, I was born me. I've just spent almost three decades trying to determine who I am and how I fit, with little more than that "feeling different" sensation to guide me through most of that time. And like tekla, other issues throughout my life tended to way-lay my self-exploration. (Colorful story by the way. . .I love your posts.  )

born grrrrrrrrrrrrrl, atheist & bitch!

Quote from: Natasha on July 14, 2009, 06:00:20 PM
born grrrrrrrrrrrrrl, atheist & bitch!

you better watch yourself. You don't want self inflicted rabies.

Quote from: Rebis on July 16, 2009, 10:18:54 PM
you better watch yourself. You don't want self inflicted rabies.

i'd rather bite ya!

Quote from: Natasha on July 17, 2009, 05:06:57 PM
i'd rather bite ya!

I believe I would be somewhat flattered if you did.

Quote from: Rebis on July 17, 2009, 09:26:33 PM
I believe I would be somewhat flattered if you did.

are you flirting with me, rebecca? 

Quote from: Natasha on July 18, 2009, 09:48:15 AM
are you flirting with me, rebecca? 

Yes. As I recall, you have beautiful eyes.   

Quote from: Rebis on July 18, 2009, 07:03:17 PM
Yes. As I recall, you have beautiful eyes.   

hahaha

In early childhood I was absolutely sure I was a girl, a girl like any other, but from about age 8 onward a number of people and factors put serious cracks in that conviction. But things kept happening to bring me back to my initial belief. I had surgery and transitioned at 24 and it was so damned easy that I came to understand that my initial belief was correct - I always WAS a girl trying to deal with a bad situation. Now, 35 years farther down the road and reading about developmental differences between boys and girl I am even more certain that I had it right from the beginning.

I am hesitant to say I was born female because I just don't know. I realize that I suppressed very well throughout the years because i knew I was supposed to be a man so I'm not really sure what would've happened if I'd discovered this when I was young.

Born female.

Interesting question.

If I were truly born Female [Mind & Body] then I would not be here, now would I?

Does wanting to have a female body and be seen as, treated as and hopefully fully though of as a women fall under the "want" category?

Basically, I just didn't wake up one day and go......
Hey! you know what would be a great idea? ..... 

I would have to say I was born female, or at least that 8lb lump above my neck was, lol.

But what a female is?

If female means female genitalia, then we weren't born female, but if you consider neovaginas to be female genitalia then we surely can become female.

If female means female brain processes, then perhaps some of us were born female and some were born tomboyish:)

If female means a belief that one is a female, then most (all?) of us were born female.

If female means dressing and acting like the other females, then we can be female whenever we want as long as we know how a female should act like.

If female means a combination of all the above, then we were born female with a birth defect, and the only cure is transition.

I can not believe I have not answered this one.

I was born male-bodied and female mind.  I have always know that I wasn't like the other boys.  My friends have always been girls.

I went the typical male route, being married three times.  But they never lasted because I just did not feel right about who I was pretending to be.  I cross dressed to find some relief, even believing for a time I was just that.  But in time, I knew exactly who I was, a woman.

And now I live as I was born to, womanhood.

I don't know, as I was a baby at the time.
That wasthen,  this is now, so what went before doesn't really matter all that much. I know who I am now.