Or both?  I've mentioned this to my wife but she doesn't seem to sure either so I guess I'll ask everyone's opinion as well.  As you all may already know, I lost my job (June 30th).  I have been approved for EI for practically a year (45 weeks).  So since the government is going to be paying me for so bloody long out of work (and assuming Erica gets the job she was interviewed for) I should be financially stable for a while once EI starts.

  So the options above are what I have planned... please also post your comments.

(Also I wasn't really planning on being a housewife I just wanted to fill all the options on the poll)

Some bodies are paying for your survival. What about them?

Well, you need money to transition. Few insurance companies cover GRS or any of the other surgeries.

If you can be totally stealth, meaning no one would ever guess your past, then you can get a job as you but since you're female the pay will probably be less.

If you get a new job for more money then transition you'd better be 99% certain they will not discriminate against you when you do. There are all kinds of ways employers can discriminate that are hard to prove.

The professions that are typically more accepting are medical. law, education, banks, IT (as long as you're not working for a bone-headed company)  A rule of thumb is the higher the education level required for a given occupation the less discriminating the work environment.  (Hmmm... I guess that says something, doesn't it?)

Julie

If you are able bodied, there is no reason why you shouldn't get a job.

I say do both, in this economy you are less likely yo find a fulltime job that pays what you are used to. claim unemployment for your 45 weeks, and during that time try to take some temp jobs or a part time job. don't set your sights TOO high for right now.

that said, if I can get inside your head a little.... it's not going to be magically easier after you have been on HRT for a while. there will be some very awkward moments and you may find that it is even more difficult to find work in the inbetween stages.

Quote from: lisagurl on July 20, 2009, 09:42:29 AM
Some bodies are paying for your survival. What about them?

yea, like adriana when she was employed? unemployment isn't welfare, geesh...

Transition is hard enough without work to back it up.  But you need to make sure that if you do transition without a job, you have some back up.  Savings, Erica working, something.

Quote from: lisagurl on July 20, 2009, 09:42:29 AM
Some bodies are paying for your survival. What about them?

If she is referring to the EI, if Canada is like the US, you have paid into it thru taxes.  And you did lose your job thru no fault of your own.

You need to make that call.  No one can do it for you.  And in this economy if ...

Quote from: Mister on July 20, 2009, 10:30:18 AM
If you are able bodied, there is no reason why you shouldn't get a job.

you are able bodied to work and no one hires you, this statement is a cop out for those who work.  Sometimes you just can't find work, even if you really really want one.

Do what you need to.

Janet

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you are able bodied to work and no one hires you, this statement is a cop out for those who work.  Sometimes you just can't find work, even if you really really want one.

If no one hires you, it's probably due to bad work history, a shoddy resume or not having the right experience/education.  And it's not a cop out-  I've been laid off twice and not unemployed for more than 2 weeks.

Depends upon you area of work.  I am glad that you were only off work for 2 weeks, but with all of the people that have given up because there are no jobs.

And I have a good work history.  In my current field there is no such thing as a resume.  Retail sales is based on an application.

Janet

I didn't realize that Retail Sales was something that anyone considered to be a career.  Seems more like a job or high school/college kids or a PT gig on the weekends for extra cash than something that someone intends on supporting an adult life with.

Having been in retail in various fashion, it turned out that way.  And the next time you purchase anything look around there are many people who use retail as a means of support.

And some people are even proud of the company they work for.  Even the lowly people that you seem to dismiss are proud of what they do.

Janet

Sounds more to me like someone is enjoying looking down on others.

There are people in my area who worked for one factory with a good work history for a decade or more and the factory closes and many of them can't find other work. I will not be self-serving and speak in my own defense, but it is sure as heck a VERY incorrect statement to say any able bodied person with a good work record will have a job.

Furthermore, it's not even necessarily true that an able bodied person SHOULD work unless they are on public assistance. If one spouse makes a good living and they decide the other spouse can afford to stay home there's nothing at all wrong with that.

I agree that Mister's comment is a cop-out statement.  However that does not mean I disagree with his statement, or am looking for excuses not to work.

Right now it is hard for me to find a job since everyone hiring in my area is only hiring for Part-Time, which is no reason for me to take any of those jobs since I'm going to be earning more on EI then I would on a Part-Time job (Anything made at a part-time job while on EI is just deducted from my EI anyway so it doesn't make a difference.)  I've never been out of a job for longer than a month, even then that was seasonal Lay-off.  This is the first time I've actually LOST a job and I'm not looking for an excuse not to work.

If Erica gets what she was interviewed for, then we will be financially able to hold our own with me just on EI.  I was just wondering if in anyone's opinion if it might be easier to start HRT while I'm out (finance allowing) and then get a job as my target gender (putting at least some of the transition behind me until I'm comfortable enough to go full-time) or get a job as a male and attempt to transition while at work.

Luckily I do not have to worry about getting "less pay" for being a woman like someone stated, as the jobs I am qualified for I know the rates, and the company is just asking to be sued if they hire anyone for any reason at any lower rates than others.

Anyway please stop fighting with Mister, he's comments are not the purpose of the thread, I'm simply looking for opinions on my situation.  As such I opened my self up for comments such as his, however, bashing is a different story and if anyone decides to degrade me I will go through the proper channels...

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Quote from: lisagurl on July 20, 2009, 09:42:29 AM
Some bodies are paying for your survival. What about them?

As for this comment, EI is something I paid for while working.  It's taken off every paycheck, as such it's MY money in the first place.

Quoteyea, like adriana when she was employed? unemployment isn't welfare, geesh...

It seems people have lost all sense of ethics. Unemployment insurance is paid for out of FICA and the employer. The fact is you need to be actively seeking employment while you are receiving it survival checks. Net part time pay is subtracted from the total. You have to pay income tax on unemployment money you receive.  It is not a paid 45 week vacation. As you collect it, the fund gets depleted and your former employer has to pay in more as there risk is greater. That leaves less to pay the other employees and more may lose their jobs.

My ex was working 2 jobs one part time. Lost the full time work and went to unemployment. They offered to send her to school for 9 months to get a certification and her part time job put her on full time with benefits. She now is working full time and going to school and will get a big raise when school is finished.

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QuoteIt's taken off every paycheck, as such it's MY money in the first place.

You will receive after 45 weeks much more than you put in. The idea is not to have accidents just because you are insured. Do you tell you church or any place you make a donation that it is still your money?

QuoteRight now it is hard for me to find a job since everyone hiring in my area is only hiring for Part-Time, which is no reason for me to take any of those jobs since I'm going to be earning more on EI then I would on a Part-Time job (Anything made at a part-time job while on EI is just deducted from my EI anyway so it doesn't make a difference.)

So to make the same amount of money, you'd rather sit and home and wait for your check to show up than work part time and continue contributing to the fund you'd still be partially drawing from.  If you don't see the problem with that, you might as well quit polling members and go rot your brain in front of daytime TV.

Don't put your transition on hold for the sake of working.
Don't put work on hold for the sake of your transition.

That's my answer.

Recieve after 45 weeks more than I've paid in my entire working life? I doubt it.

As for you Mister.  NO I do not see a problem with sitting at home trying to find a job that pays at least as good as the one I previously had.  Just because I am trying to decide whether or not it would be better for me to put work on hold, does not mean I am not LOOKING while I am making that decision.  Taking a part-time job that will not contribute any more money than I am already receiving and will only take up time that could be spent looking for a better job and in interviews is a lot more stupid in my opinion.  Besides on the side I am also working for my father and my ex-assistant manager UNDER the table to provide my self with some much needed non-taxable money.  You have already stated your opinion and your ignorant and derogatory statements are no longer needed. Please if you have no more to contribute properly, go away.

Because PT jobs never turn into FT opportunities.  And as long as daddy's handing you cash, there's no need to be truly motivated to support yourself.

Okay Mister i don't even know what to say because anything i want to say will get me banned

Adrianna is trying. I dont see when she's going to get another opportunity to make money and "not work"  She can slip out of the public eye and transition and surface the beautiful woman she is. Then find a job with a resume that says Adrianna

Where I live you PAY into EI your hole life. This is Adriannas money coming back to her. It comes off EVERY SINGLE PAY of EVERY job you work. She has worked hard and deserves to take the time to decide what to do. She asked for help for advise and instead people seem to tear down her choices.

if you dont have anything nice to say (or a nice way of saying something) please dont say anything at all!!!

I'm very protective of Adrianna though i can tell i dont need to be. btw Adrianna works FOR her dad to get extra money. Its not a free hand out.

Erica, Adrianna is (presumably) an adult.  There is no need for you to post on her behalf.

Adrianna, you posted a poll asking for the opinions and comments of the members on this site on a topic that is clearly quite triggering for you.  I suggest that in the future, you take into consideration that asking for the opinion of others means that you're going to get it.  On the poll that you constructed, you gave the option to dissent from your party line, and I did.  While this is a support site, I am under absolutely no obligation to leave my ethics at the door and tell you what you'd like to hear.

Mister, as I have stated before, YES you did indeed post your opinion "if you are abled body you should work."  However your further comments have been nothing but derogatory.  I have already asked that you refrain from this, however you have refused.  I do believe that it what is known as "bashing" someone, which if I'm correct would be against the TOS as it is almost everywhere.  So once again I will ask you to stop.