You don't have to change the Constitution, hard to do by the way, but just get a ruling from the Supremes.

I wonder how many of the "smears" were started by disgruntled Hillary supporters.
Not suggesting HRC herself, but rather her a few out of tens of millions of primary backers.

edited for clarity.

Quote from: michellesofl on July 23, 2009, 05:59:19 PM
I wonder how many of the "smears" were started by disgruntled Hillary supporters.
Not suggesting HRC herself, but rather her few out of tens of millions of primary backers.

About Obama and the BC thingy?

A few, I was watching a Chris Matthews confrontation w/ a group of them on YouTube the other day. It was from back during the campaign and yes, I suspect more than one or two HRC supporters are prolly working for the birthers in one capacity or another.

But prolly not so many. I'd imagine they'd have some issues with some of their co-believers in other areas.

Quote from: michellesofl on July 23, 2009, 05:14:05 PM
Someone above mentioned memebers of the armed forces having trouble with citizenship being conferred upon there kids. You can add members of the diplomatic services and Americans living overseas in general to the list.

foreign embassies and bases are considered US soil and thus they are considered natural born citizens and not naturalized. this went into effect a few years after john mccain was born as a result of our bases in germany and japan, but the law was made to be retroactive. as long as an american citizen living overseas retains their citizen ship, children born in foreign soil would still be considered citizens - although i'm not sure if they are natural born or naturalized to be honest.

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Quote from: michellesofl on July 23, 2009, 05:59:19 PM
I wonder how many of the "smears" were started by disgruntled Hillary supporters.
Not suggesting HRC herself, but rather her a few out of tens of millions of primary backers.

edited for clarity.

if anyone is familiar with hillaryis44, you can see that a lot of this DID actually start with HRC supporters.

children born in foreign soil would still be considered citizens - although i'm not sure if they are natural born or naturalized to be honest.

The problem is, I think under current law such children are considered naturalized.
Which means if a couple is in Germany when their child is born, that child would be ineligble to be POTUS.

A rather outdated law considering the 21st century.

QuoteThe problem is, I think under current law such children are considered naturalized.

Unless it is born on a U.S. facility such a a military base which is considered U.S. soil.

How about the working class support personell who live off base? A couple living overseas when their baby is born?

This whole arguement put forth by the "birthers" was bound to happen and might happen even more often in the future.

Even worse it could happen with "due cause" in the future.

But now the rest of the story.
These are not dissatisfied HRC voters.
Nor are they racist 'Pubs.
No the truth behind the Birthers is... Biden supporters. Thats right. The 2300 or so people who voted for Biden in the primaries are trying to carry out a coup.

WATCH YOUR BACK BARACK.

OK, this is beyond crazy talk, and if the birthers did nothing else, perhaps it might force the Supreme Court to do what's it supposed to do, which it interpret the Constitution as not only the Founders wrote it, but also as a living document to govern in our current age.

Look, we're in a world the Founders can't imagine.

How, how without half the acid Jerry Garcia ever did AT THE SAME TIME, could you ever imagine that John McCain could not be President?  He was born in Panama, sure.  (which at the time was an American territory as I recall), since old John was not born AFTER Carter gave it back - hell, John himself would joke that he was there at Valley Forge - with an American mother, and a father, who was a fricking ADMIRAL in the fricking U.S. NAVY, on assignment there.  John's Grandfather was also a fricking ADMIRAL in the U.S. NAVY.  John went to college and graduated from fricking the U. S. NAVAL Academy, then served in a war, and did time as an AMERICAN POW.  Jesus H. Christ.  Somehow George Bush (National Guard, slightly sketch at that) and Dick Cheney - FIVE COUNT EM FIVE DRAFT DEFERMENTS - are somehow more qualified.  Give me a break.  I'm sure that's not what the Founders were thinking of.

As for Obama.  Does anyone really think that he is not an American?  Even if he was born on Mars, that dude is as American as they come.

Call in the Supreme Court.  Time for them to earn their paycheck.


P.S. Good luck for the birthers when the same SC that ruled for them in in 'in re Bush v. Gore' goes against them this time. 

Kat,

Put the way you put it, I would than actually like to see this particular group of crazies make it to the SC.

Close the door on this load of BS for good.

I would too.  It's never been looked at, and I guess it's time someone did.