So in case the draft is instituted post-op MTF must serve but pre-op MTF not? That is highly odd.

Fact of the matter is, Dark Lady, that there's just no way that the USA will reinstate a military draft.

DarkLady, hun, you really don't want to get into a political debate with Tekla and Mister... You will loose, I promise you. I won't even go their and I consider myself relatively well versed in the subject.

Quote from: DarkLady on July 24, 2009, 11:00:55 AM
So in case the draft is instituted post-op MTF must serve but pre-op MTF not? That is highly odd.

The current draft is set up to only require men to serve.  Post-op MTFs are not men.  Pre-op MTFs are unable to change their sex with the federal government and are, in the eyes of the government, men.

According to SSS the''orginal birthcertificate marked sex'' is the indication for registry not federally legal sex as ''male''.

Either way, the military is not going to want them.  It doesn't take them now, why would it do so later?

Quote from: DarkLady on July 24, 2009, 11:08:11 AM
According to SSS the''orginal birthcertificate marked sex'' is the indication for registry not federally legal sex as ''male''.

Dark, let's face it.  you have no clue what you're talking about.  Please go obsess about the Finnish government.

Does Finland even have a government?  I never hear about it. 

Quote from: tekla on July 24, 2009, 11:18:31 AM
Does Finland even have a government?  I never hear about it.

Niether do I, but I don't ever even hear of most countries on the map, which makes me wonder if they even exist outside of a map.

Miss Teen South Carolina Lauren Caitlin Upton answering the question
Recent polls have shown that a fifth of Americans can't locate the US on a world map. Why do you think this is?"

"I personally believe, that U.S. Americans,
are unable to do so,
because uh,
some, people out there, in our nation don't have maps.
and uh...
I believe that our education like such as in South Africa,
and the Iraq,
everywhere like such as...
and, I believe they should uh,
our education over here,
in the U.S. should help the U.S.
or should help South Africa,
and should help the Iraq and Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future,
for us."

Quote from: tekla on July 24, 2009, 11:40:20 AM
Miss Teen South Carolina Lauren Caitlin Upton answering the question
Recent polls have shown that a fifth of Americans can't locate the US on a world map. Why do you think this is?"

"I personally believe, that U.S. Americans,
are unable to do so,
because uh,
some, people out there, in our nation don't have maps.
and uh...
I believe that our education like such as in South Africa,
and the Iraq,
everywhere like such as...
and, I believe they should uh,
our education over here,
in the U.S. should help the U.S.
or should help South Africa,
and should help the Iraq and Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future,
for us."

lol.

It took me several readings of that to make any sence of it, and the majority of it has nothing to do with the US not being able to locate itself on a map.

But back to the topic, I wouldn't be too upset if they drafted me, but only if they drafted me as a woman. That way, I don't feel so insulted and I feel it's more fair to draft the women and the men equally.

DL why not focus on the North Korea military and draft.

Quote from: DarkLady on July 24, 2009, 11:53:47 AM
They may not have the draft. There is now sure data about their situation. And they have total gay ban so it would be easy to avoid the draft there.

Which is one thing I don't understand. Why do militarys in general seem to have such a shared dislike of gays?

I find that extremely irrational. Just because you are gay doesn't mean you are some kind of pervert.








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Hmm, I was actually thinking of starting my own banana republic with yours truly as fatherly dictator.  If I do, I'll offer you residency, DL, with a guarantee that there'll be no draft and no military prison for you.  Hell, I'll grant you immunity from prosecution for life!

Meanwhile, I need to recruit for chief of my secret police.  Any takers?

All together now: "Viva El Presidente!"

Meanwhile, I need to recruit for chief of my secret police.

Announcing it like this kind of defeats the rational for having a secret police in the first place doesn't it?

Ah yes, poor choice of words.  Let's rephrase it as "head of the ministry of harmonious compliance" or something like that.

Meanwhile, I need to recruit for chief of my secret police.  Any takers?

Raises hand.

Quote from: michellesofl on July 25, 2009, 01:44:24 PM
Meanwhile, I need to recruit for chief of my secret police.  Any takers?

Raises hand.

  The "Does not play well with others" tag line implies you'd be a great candidate.  Noted!

If it does happen, I'm not surprised. I saw it coming for the past decade with expansion of the military in Iraq and Afghanistan. I know the US government is itching for a battle with Iran and to a lesser extent North Korea. 

Both Republicans and Democrats don't even want to touch this can of worms. I was chosen for military service when the last draft was in force. Didn't worry about it because I had no control over it.

Gennee