Quote from: Teknoir on July 29, 2009, 04:33:54 AM
Though I will say - estrogen makes people more emotional. I have no idea why, but why do you think women are so intolerable around period time?

Estrogen calms. It's like a sedative. Women aren't used to integrating that natural aggression into their personality like males, so when there is very low estrogen (during periods) women become aggressive (estrogen is also necessary for proper brain function, maybe that explains irrationality as well?).

SilverFang

Quote from: SilverFang on July 29, 2009, 04:57:06 AM
Estrogen calms. It's like a sedative. Women aren't used to integrating that natural aggression into their personality like males, so when there is very low estrogen (during periods) women become aggressive (estrogen is also necessary for proper brain function, maybe that explains irrationality as well?).

SilverFang

It's not that women aren't used to integrating natural aggression but because they express a wide array of emotions when they are angry that don't necessarily relate to anger itself. The female brain interconnects to many different cortical areas at once and is quite elaborate, whereas the male brain isn't as elaborate in that way. This means a woman will express her anger in many different ways, but these expressions don't necessarily mean they are ones of anger, but because all these emotions are being stimulated at once, it seems like it.

Men tend to lose their anger much quicker but by the same token they also work through it very fast, whereas women tend to feel their anger 'brewing' and find it difficult to control their emotions and often feel they need to vent it to get rid of it. This is biological, but biology always has room for exceptions. Often times it just comes down to the type of person that you are.

Quote from: Monty on July 29, 2009, 05:20:01 AM
It's not that women aren't used to integrating natural aggression but because they express a wide array of emotions when they are angry that don't necessarily relate to anger itself. The female brain interconnects to many different cortical areas at once and is quite elaborate, whereas the male brain isn't as elaborate in that way. This means a woman will express her anger in many different ways, but these expressions don't necessarily mean they are ones of anger, but because all these emotions are being stimulated at once, it seems like it.

Men tend to lose their anger much quicker but by the same token they also work through it very fast, whereas women tend to feel their anger 'brewing' and find it difficult to control their emotions and often feel they need to vent it to get rid of it. This is biological, but biology always has room for exceptions. Often times it just comes down to the type of person that you are.

So. . . Are you trying to say that the lack of estrogen during periods makes them more emotional? This would certainly defy the previous assumption about women being emotional because of estrogen. I am not disputing your statements about the expression of female anger or cause though.

I personally just think that emotional repression is socially conditioned. I've been around enough guys to know that they're not emotionless. And I'm pretty emotionless for a female-bodied person.There doesn't seem to be a great deal more to say on the topic of this thread, however I do not want to hijack it.

SilverFang

Quote from: SilverFang on July 29, 2009, 05:46:42 AM
So. . . Are you trying to say that the lack of estrogen during periods makes them more emotional? This would certainly defy the previous assumption about women being emotional because of estrogen. I am not disputing your statements about the expression of female anger or cause though.

I personally just think that emotional repression is socially conditioned. I've been around enough guys to know that they're not emotionless. And I'm pretty emotionless for a female-bodied person.There doesn't seem to be a great deal more to say on the topic of this thread, however I do not want to hijack it.

SilverFang

The reason why women tend to get angry around their periods is because their hormones are shifting, and when your hormones shift it messes up with the chemistry set in your head which effects your mood.

Emotional repression is conditioned, yes.

Quote from: SilverFang on July 29, 2009, 05:46:42 AM
I personally just think that emotional repression is socially conditioned.

Yes and no.  There is great pressure on men not to display emotion, but T also plays its role in suppressing emotion and changes the way one experiences it.  Almost every trans guy I've ever talked to has said that their emotional state was much  less volatile on T.  Of course, that may not have so much to do with T vs E.  It may simply be because the hormone levels don't keep shifting back and forth.  But T does make one much less likely to burst into tears over every little thing.  That alone is good enough reason to go on T, in my opinion.    I am so happy to be free of the waterworks! 

And to answer the original question:  I've more often been accused of being too cold.  Although my mom did throw the "How are you going to function as a guy when you cry when you get angry?" card at me when she was still trying to convince me not to transition.    Fortunately, I had done my homework. 

QuoteThere is great pressure on men not to display emotion

Soft emotion, yes (crying, empathy, public affection, etc.).  Anger, aggressiveness etc. not so much.

Quote from: Teknoir on July 29, 2009, 04:33:54 AMI concur with it being annoying when women think you're going to agree with and understand them, just because you had some similar anatomy at one stage in your life.

I agree. I mostly don't think like a woman and women have always confused me- where as I can talk to, understand and relate to men better. That's why I've never been a "girl talk" person. I don't understand or relate. I doubt that will change during my transition.

For the record, I don't understand humans period anyway.