I just read this page which I found on some link here:
http://www.heartcorps.com/journeys-end/4.html

I am curious about the double leg crossing! can anyone do it and upload a picture please?

I can cross the legs and then pass the leg which is on top under the lower part of the bottom leg.. but I am not sure if it's done like they mean.

If at least one person can do it properly and show me - that will help a lot!!!

Also if some of the guys here can't do it at all - I'd be interested to hear that

Yes, that's what she means, but what she claims is complete BS. I don't think I've ever seen a woman do that in real life (only in a picture in a body language book). I just tried it and found it incredibly difficult and unbelievably uncomfortable. Having a male or female mind would have nothing whatsoever to do with joint flexibility, so either I have a very interesting joint pattern for a bio-female or she's full of it. My cis-female best friend (who was here while I was reading this) also just tried it at my request and couldn't do it at all without using her hand to push her foot back under her leg. Most women (in Small Town Where-I-Live, anyway) cross their legs once, at the knee. Most men do not cross their legs at all or cross them at the ankles.

Thanks for the reply!

I uploaded a picture of what I was doing, I am not sure if it's what she meant.

Eww my legs! @@..

That page does look like a load of complete BS... but I can do the double leg crossing thing.  Definitely never seen anyone else do that tho.

The page IMO is BS. I've been doing double crossings all my life. Even when as a guy. No one has ever made a comment. Where I am, guys are always crossing their legs at the knee, in pubs everywhere. Obese people cannot but that's another problem. I double cross my legs 'cos it feels comfy, when I'm in my desk chair I even scoot myself around the office with legs double crossed and locked. No one has ever made a comment. Didn't know it meant anything.

I suppose all females that cannot double cross their legs are no longer female?

Cindy: The double jointed

Well, I can't do it at all.  I guess that makes me a super-stud. 

That looks like the most uncomfortable way of sitting I've ever seen. 

Isn't it odd? I find it very comfortable. In fact I adopt it as my norml position, particularly when concentrating. Yet, I cannot sit with my legs under my backside; al. a. legs as a cushion.

Cindy

It's not uncomfortable and it can look better.. I was trying to get my web cam to work and into position so I moved

But it does seem to be like a very un-accurate thing, so far I had about 5 guys (normal guys) trying the arm thingy and they all came at an angle O_o

Just looking at that turns my brain inside-out!

Nup, I could never cross my legs at the knees, but always with one ankle resting on the other knee (I seem to remember Dad sitting like that a lot when I was really young, and seeing Mum do the knee-cross thing, and always wanted to copy Dad and the other adult men more...hm...). I remember at high school in one particular class we didn't have desks, and so there'd be a line of girls in skirts all with their legs crossed at the knee to support their books, and then me in the middle with one trousered ankle resting horizontally on the other trousered knee.

The main point, though, is that no, I can't do that double-leg-crossing-mind-bending thing.

I can not do that thing with my legs... but this seems really silly anyways.

uuuh... one of my elbows does the out-bend, and the other goes straight. So I wonder what that'd make me?  (no, I've never broken either of them)
Also, I used to sit like that as a little kid all the time. Not so comfortable now, though.

My brother, who was born male, has elbows that "out-bend", and so do mine.  For us, it's just genetic.  I don't know about the theory of it being only in women.  I think it's just rare in general.  Then again, I don't entirely understand the term "out-bend"; if my brother and I hold our arms forwards, palms facing upwards, we seem double-jointed in that we can stretch the arm out to the side, and thus the elbow.  Not entirely sure what else it could be, other than the theory that, in female skeletons, the elbows bend outwards to accommodate the hips.  This, I do not have.

On the subject of the uncomfortable way of sitting, I do often cross my legs at the knee.  I don't know why a comfortable sitting position should ever be gendered.  You sit as you want to sit.  I've seen many cisgendered males sitting in this manner, and I've also seen them standing and leaning in awkward positions that would be labeled "effeminate".  We as people should do what we think is comfortable whether it be branded female or male.  And the double leg crossing is simply mind-bending for me.

Well, I'm not sure how accurate this woman's claims are, but here's my results.
- I have male arms.
- It appears I can't do the leg crossing thing if my life depended on it.
- My shoulders are slightly wider than my hips. (I still think my hips are too feminine though).
- I have very thick finger bones which make them look shorter than they really are. I've had to listen to this all my life.
- I have masculine and feminine features in my face.
- Body hair is -10%. But, I do have Native American decent. The males in my family aren't too hairy either.

The more I read this the more I think it's a crock of sh*t. Most of these features are decided through hormones. I believe the brain can be one sex while the body's another- no matter what physical traits you have. It was still an interesting read.

Through extensive trials, I have determined I cannot double cross my legs, and can hardly fathom such a thing being possible.  However, there is no reason to believe the presence or absence of this seemingly useless ability would determine the gender of your brain.

In the pic, I think you're doing it with the wrong leg. You're supposed to do it with teh top leg. but maybe not. i tried but couldn't do it. but then i've never been very flexible.

I really didn't read through all of this but a classic double leg cross = crossing your legs at the knee, then the big toe of the top leg touches the back/inner calf of the bottom leg, making it wrap around much like in your pic but not to that extreme where you look like a pretzel.

It's not necessarily a feminine way of crossing your legs, just many men don't do it as it tends to squish some bits that aren't exactly comfortable being squished.

Quote from: Adrian on August 16, 2009, 05:13:58 PMHowever, there is no reason to believe the presence or absence of this seemingly useless ability would determine the gender of your brain.

True.

What I did find interesting was her theory about someone can be intersexed without both male and female sex organs. I've never heard of this before. I don't really know what I think about that, but it's an interesting theory.

Quote from: Radar on August 16, 2009, 05:55:27 PM
True.

What I did find interesting was her theory about someone can be intersexed without both male and female sex organs. I've never heard of this before. I don't really know what I think about that, but it's an interesting theory.

Intersex doesn't necessarily refer to ambiguous genitalia.
It can present itself as ovaries that consist of testicular tissue (or vice versa), or even chromosomal abnormalities...

I tried with everything I had to get my legs to do that and they would NOT cross like that! haha The most comfortable way for me to cross my legs is mid calf over knee, and the most comfortable way for me to sit is one foot under bum. I guess I don't sit like a typical female! haha
I have quite thick fingers, too, very thick bones in my fingers, all of my fingers except for my pinky fingers, I wear a size 8 ring, but size 9 won't fall off either, so I have some chunky hands! haha
My hands fall about 2 inches from my sides.
I also measured my shoulders vs my hips, 42 inches when I measured around my shoulders, 39 inches around my hips, and my hips are NOT small by any means compared to my body, waist is 32 inches, I guess I just have some huge shoulders going on! haha

So I would say that this information is a bit flawed.