Quote from: Mister on August 17, 2009, 04:49:07 PM
no, they eventually pass to the un-transaware.  most are forever detectable by those in the know, though.

It may not be everyone's answer, but: I'm cool with that. (for me. ymmv)

To be honest I can't remember ever seeing a guy with eyes as big as mine.  Hopefully my brow will get a bit bigger which will change the shape of them. These were the widest looking eyes I could find on a guy:
And even those throw me off at first.

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Quote from: Mister on August 17, 2009, 04:49:07 PM
no, they eventually pass to the un-transaware.  most are forever detectable by those in the know, though.

When I first saw pictures of FTMs who had gone through the transition, I started seeing "potential" FTMs all over the place in the streets, and I know in this little city that's impossible. They really are eventually almost undetectable.

No, roo, they're not.  And brow ridges don't grow.

T can change a lot, but something it can not.  Bone structure, density, and basic distances, don't change.

I thought the bones in your face thickened?  It's one of the irreversible effects isn't it?

Quote from: Mister on August 17, 2009, 04:39:22 PM
I am so sick of hearing that line.. "Well some bioguys......"  The only one used more commonly is "It doesn't take a dick to be a man."    The only two groups of people who use them are transpeople and the allies who are propping up people's self esteem.

What's wrong with that?

Building up people self esteem on a false premeise is not doing them any good.  No more then telling them, "Gee, you're not on fire" is helping them when they have flames shooting out from them.  In the real world - that's the place that is not here, or in front of your mirror - life can get pretty rough real fast.

Do you really want people to lie to you?

Quote from: Maiden on August 17, 2009, 05:16:17 PM
What's wrong with that?

Well let's see...   it's attempting to rationalize something unpassable about a male/female TS person (height, build, in this case, eyes) with what is usually an extreme minority of people born male/female.   The whole thing is just ridiculous ego inflation. 

So FtMs aren't men because they don't have dicks?  Or it's a lie that some bioguys have feminine features?  I'm not seeing where there's a problem.

Quote from: Maiden on August 17, 2009, 05:23:29 PM
So FtMs aren't men because they don't have dicks?  Or it's a lie that some bioguys have feminine features?  I'm not seeing where there's a problem.

Did i say either?  Nope.  Please reread.

Quote from: Mister on August 17, 2009, 05:25:16 PM
Did i say either?  Nope.  Please reread.

I was responding to tekla.

Quote from: roo on August 17, 2009, 04:57:12 PM
To be honest I can't remember ever seeing a guy with eyes as big as mine.  Hopefully my brow will get a bit bigger which will change the shape of them. These were the widest looking eyes I could find on a guy:
And even those throw me off at first.

How about these.


And the problem with saying that you can always spot them is, you'll never know about the ones that you don't spot.

I said there were many clues that we use, physical features are just one of them.  And funny, most of the MtFs here think that SRS is the real turning point, and often the law agrees.  And I didn't say men had to have a dick, I said it helps if they can be a dick.

Quote from: tekla on August 17, 2009, 05:34:50 PM
I said there were many clues that we use, physical features are just one of them.  And funny, most of the MtFs here think that SRS is the real turning point, and often the law agrees.  And I didn't say men had to have a dick, I said it helps if they can be a dick.

And this is because you're an enlightened guy.  Go stand on a street corner and ask men this question, "What about a man makes him a man?"  If your most common answer isn't a penis, i'll be shocked. 

Don't worry about your eyelashes, most men would never look that close.  For what it is worth, my eyelashes were always long and curled (and I was cursed by being born genetically male).  I remember the eye doctor mentioning that when he was checking my eyes.

Typically 90+ percent of people never look that close at people they see on the street.

Sarah L.

About eye lashes, All the women I 've know always tell me they would kill to have my blue eyes and lashes. ( CD ). You'll be great. Happiness is all you can ask for. Carriage will take you a long way. Huggs.

This picture doesn't show it well, but when watching the movie (Underworld Rise of the Lycans) I kept thinking he has huge eyes..
But his forehead and other features are huge too so you don't see it as much as on a girl

Here, have a couple more pix.  I'm all for sharing photos of pretty guys with big, beautiful eyes.  *sigh* 

 

I would say stop plucking the eyebrows.. Eyelashes aren't really that important to be honest. Alot of guys I know have long eye lashes compared to most women.. and people aren't really going to go "Look at that guys eyelashes damn its a woman!!" are they?

Jay