hahahaha what a silly poll! has anybody actually voted "below average"?  duh.

Quote from: Deanna_Renee on August 19, 2009, 12:05:41 AMI am trying to determine if there is some correlation between transgendered people and intelligence. In reading studies about the possible genetic explanations for transgender people, there is some indication that there is a developmental difference in the formation of the brain in the transgendered. There seem to be certain regions in the brain that connect the two hemispheres providing a kind of duality that non-trans people lack.

Considering that many if not most of us seem to have trouble even figuring out what gender we are, I'd say we're definitely lacking something.   As for brain hemispheric connections, I'm a libra, if that helps.

I'm one of those mensa range people where it actually does not translate into money, job, status or achievement (though I get enough poontang). Brains are pretty useless if you don't apply them. Fortunately I am happy not to put in the effort.

I did well academicaly, but I don't make the most money or have the best job. I can't spell. I'm chemical happy (SSRI), so maybe I am not so 'smart' in that area either. I'm not particulalry driven except when it comes to dungeons and dragons, computer games and playing in my band. But I have a beautiful wife and we have a good relationship and 2 lovely kids and drawer full of nice nickers. I enjoy food and my friends are great. Life is challenging but savory. That to me is my success.

Quote from: Natasha on August 19, 2009, 05:27:27 PM
hahahaha what a silly poll! has anybody actually voted "below average"?  duh.

I probably fit in below average

"Mensa range" is (according to the organization) the top two percent.

Do I think I'm smarter in terms of the kind of stuff IQ tests than 49 out of 50 people chosen randomly by social security number? Yeah, probably. I'd put money on that. It's kind of what I'm good at. As far as what they call "metacognitive skills" needed to apply that to anything useful, not so much. Maybe I beat out ten of those 50 on a good day. Funny how those are way more important.

Oh, yeah: selection and self-reporting bias.



*(So says the book of sudoku puzzles that someone gave me published by them.)

Are TS/TG folks "smarter" than the average human?

How much of this board or other boards have you read? Surely you can make a judgement based just on that without having people tell you that they are "above average." It's kinda like Lake Woebegone: "all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average."

In fact there's a name for what you're asking about: "The Lake Woebegone Effect." The Lake Wobegon effect designates either: the human tendency to overestimate one's achievements and capabilities in relation to others (in academic sources this is more usually called the above average effect or the better-than-average effect); or the finding that in many educational tests a vast majority of participants achieve results above the norm.

I like that one person voted "none of the above". 

Can some one explain the question to me?

I guess I'm just an average girl, average body, average looks, fairly well read, not so much written, hold a management position, participate in conversation, can make discussions, able to prioritize, able to solve problems, earn a great salary, pay my bills on time, able to use a cell phone and program my Cable TV recorder/receiver, I drive a car, ride a motorcycle, a horse and have the ability to drive folks crazy, I please my guy, I cook clean and shop, and most of all I'm happy.

So yep I think I'm just an average girl. 

-={LR}=-

Quote from: Matilda on August 21, 2009, 03:11:56 PM
That's a great way to put it, Ladyrider  

Personally, I feel that proving your "intelligence" should be done in REAL LIFE, with REAL people, at your place of employment, or at your place of study and not on some cyberspace forum where no one knows you or really cares.

Can't argue with that...  Real life trumps all

-=LR=-

Quote from: Matilda on August 21, 2009, 03:11:56 PM
That's a great way to put it, Ladyrider  

Personally, I feel that proving your "intelligence" should be done in REAL LIFE, with REAL people, at your place of employment, or at your place of study and not on some cyberspace forum where no one knows you or really cares.

Or as we say on the internets...

Photographs or it didn't happen.

A University Professor who has an incredibly high IQ might feel a bit dumb and stupid if he ended up in a dark alley with a bunch of crackheads walking up to him. Intelligence is relative.

I'm surrounded by geniuses!  Half the TGs here are in the top 2% for intelligence. 

I've spent a lot of time with real geniuses and a vast majority of them don't score well in the common sense department.  And being a genius does not mean you'll be rich.  I personally know some who are earning well below the median income. 

When I was working at a national lab there was a person there who kept the scientists on their schedules.  And, when necessary, reminded them to tie their shoes or comb their hair.  Yes, they were brilliant and the few conversations I had with them confirmed that.  But when it came to every day stuff they had a tough time.  The reason, I was told, is it just didn't matter to them.

Julie

Two of my best friends score in the mensa range... they're hilarious sometimes.. inadvertently I mean.

I don't think it's a matter of not caring so much as, you only have so much brain power.
You can be smart one way, but you have to be stupid in another. 

Let's just say you don't want me alphabetizing your office files. According to the military, I can fix anything but you will never find the paperwork.

I guess what it boils down to is that everyone has their various talents. It's a trade off.

There are some things that I'm able to rather well and some others can't. There are things others can do much better than I could ever imagine.

Maybe it's a what ever flips your switch or floats your boat kinda thing 

This may well be an Urban myth.

Albert Einstein was walking home. The family had recently moved and AE was notoriously absent minded. He walked down the street and saw a young boy. "Excuse me do you know which house the Einstein's have moved into?" Young boy replied. "It's OK Dad, I'll take you home"

He He

Cindy

Quote from: Leslie Ann on August 22, 2009, 01:13:57 AM
I don't think it's a matter of not caring so much as, you only have so much brain power.
You can be smart one way, but you have to be stupid in another. 

Yup, that would be it.

I'm not as bad as my mensa range friend, but I often find myself unable to understand "people", but I understand the psychology behind it.

I'm surrounded by geniuses!  Half the TGs here are in the top 2% for intelligence.

Yeah, you could have knocked me down with a feather when I found that out.

I suspect the results are more a reflection of self-image than reality.

(none of the above for me, btw)

I consider myself an MTF TS but I'm not sure what "mensa" means. I am a computer scientist and enjoy software development as a hobby though.