hrmmm... maybe i was wrong about my generalisation with the M2Fs vs the F2Ms, i tend to see patterns too quickly, maybe a few very passionate M2Fs just posted early. But there are a few very passionately "i AM woman hear me roar!" kinda M2Fs, but i haven't seen any F2Ms that passionate?

hrmmm.. funny what's you'd said about men needing to think out loud, i alwayse do that, can't think with a sore throat...

Quote from: metal angel on August 24, 2009, 07:38:40 AM
can't think with a sore throat...

LMAO 

Grrr... Deanna (can't quite roar yet)

Thats OK Deanna, you can start with a purrrr.

Quote from: Jamie-o on August 23, 2009, 05:27:24 AM
I have no idea if I feel the same as other guys.  But I do know that when I look in a mirror and I see a girl, it just feels wrong.  I know I am a boy," as "I know I'm not a girl."

This is exactly how I felt. All I saw in the mirror looking back at me was all wrong. Now I look in the mirror and I see me. I feel right hormonally and am comfortable in my skin and mind. Since I am not sure what other guys feel like I can;t compare but it sure does feel nice to be me.
Cheers, Myles

Quote from: LordKAT on August 24, 2009, 10:03:28 PM
Thats OK Deanna, you can start with a purrrr.

Awww... Thanks LordKAT, I could be happy being a kitten for a while.

Quote from: myles on August 24, 2009, 10:09:28 PM
This is exactly how I felt. All I saw in the mirror looking back at me was all wrong. Now I look in the mirror and I see me. I feel right hormonally and am comfortable in my skin and mind. Since I am not sure what other guys feel like I can;t compare but it sure does feel nice to be me.
Cheers, Myles

I don't think it really much matters if we feel/think/act/behave like 'real' males or females as long as we are comfortable, happy and in tune with ourselves (now or eventually). It is assumed that GGs and GBs are content, happy and in tune with themselves, whatever they think and feel. That is what we are each striving for. The limit is how far we feel we need to go to either reach that goal or to a compromise point that we can live with.

Personally, I don't think I could live with anything less than the whole enchalada (HRT, SRS, FFS (maybe), and lots of Shopping Therapy) before I'll be content with myself - though that may change at some point.

Deanna (I am kitten, hear me mew)

Quote from: Deanna_Renee on August 24, 2009, 10:32:39 PM
Deanna (I am kitten, hear me mew)

Well, with the sore throat and all, sounds a little scratchy..... 

Quote from: Deanna_Renee on August 24, 2009, 10:32:39 PM
It is assumed that GGs and GBs are content, happy and in tune with themselves, whatever they think and feel.

I don't think that's assumed.  I think the assumption is rather that we who don't match inside and out are not content, not happy, not in tune with ourselves at least in part due to this GID.  Resolving GID (as much as that's possible) can clear out one roadblock, but it's still a long and winding road to happiness.

Quote from: Deanna_Renee on August 24, 2009, 10:32:39 PM
Personally, I don't think I could live with anything less than the whole enchalada (HRT, SRS, FFS (maybe), and lots of Shopping Therapy) before I'll be content with myself - though that may change at some point.

Deanna (I am kitten, hear me mew)

Lots and lots and lots of shopping therapy .

Actually, re-reading my comment, I would probably rephrase it somewhat.

I would presume that GGs and GBs don't give thought as to whether they are content, happy and in tune with their genders as there is no conflict and to them there is no other way to feel.

I think?

Deanna

I knew I was a girl as a child. But I wasted several years trying to "act" like a man to please others. Even did some rather dangerous things to prove it. I paid the price with several injuries and wasted time.

How do you know? I'm not sure. You just know

I don't know.  I use societal clues to tell me.  When you are young and your mom tells you "you are a boy" you just go with it.  If you wonder if that is true, it is most likely because of some other experience you have had to tell you that you aren't a boy.

As for me, being a girl is about living in a role I am more comfortable in, have expectations of me I feel I can more naturally meet, and about living successfully in a social structure where I feel I have a place.  I'm sure if the social gender reversed, I'd want to be a boy.  I don't "know" if I am a boy or a girl, I use my genetics to tell me.  They are XY, so I assume male is the proper diagnosis regardless of what activities I like, where I fit in better socially, or how naturally feminine I am.

Just a thought Metal Angel,

Is it easier for a MtF to think it (wrong phrase but bear with me) easier or more correct or more natural then an FtM because that is your experience? It may be similar to how all "straight" people think. Why would anyone wish to be: long list. Do genetic guys think; I'm happy swinging dick why isn't anyone else (Paraphrase from "No Country for Old Men" great movie and loved the line: If the're coming for me, they'll be swinging dick).

Sorry, I'm rambling, writing and answering the phone at the same time.

Please no one take offense. I still believe the perception of our selves is individually unique. From anorexia, to body buliding to extreme plastic surgery, why do people do it? I've seen photos of people who know have feline features, someone with horns and a split tongue. Women with breasts bigger than their body.

This is not meant to get off the topic, but people see themselves uniquely. Physically, sexually, mentally, and any other -ally you want to tag.
So why do we identify ourselves as male or female?

The answer? No f***g idea, but we do.

Sorry if this got into a rant it wasn't meant too, I was having fun with a fun topic.

Luv

Cindy

Cindy, you are making a lot less sense than usual? (i blame the phone call?) but message taken on the shortest line.

interalia, i think i like your perspective... reading your blog now.