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What to expect... the good and the bad

Started by tunak, September 04, 2009, 02:41:36 AM

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tunak

I have read alot of the women in this forum and it seems like most of you have pretty much had good experience. I do not want to focus on the negative things but i believe that it is important to be ready for the good and also the bad parts of transitioning... If i may ask you... What's the meanest thing you personally experienced being a TS/TV/CD/TG? how bout What's the greatest thing/s? What should i expect from people when i am transitioning and when i finally become fulltime?
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Calistine

It depends on where you live and the people you know mostly. Everyone has a different opinion.
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Hannah

The worst, by far, was the end of what was supposed to be a life long relationship with someone I love dearly. It seems to happen a lot so you might brace yourself for it.

The best would be...just about everything else really, but on topic being able to feel the loss. Before hormones feelings were very subdued and some were even numb. I know it sounds cheesy but pain is at least a good clue that one is still alive.
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Valerie Elizabeth

For me, one of the really awesome things was my boss actually.  The way he handled it.  He talked with me and asked me how I wanted to handle things.  He also went to the counseling center for advice, as well as the women's center for help.  He also talked with his fiancee who has trans friends.

Let me also explain where I work.  I am a student employee at a college.  I work at a rock climbing gym as staff, and I also work on outdoor classes that our program runs.  Since I have been climbing at the gym for years, I know just about everyone who goes there.  Since by boss and his fiancee also climb there I am friends with both of them (and have been since before working there).  So my boss talking to his wife was no big deal to me.  I thought that information was important.


Back on topic.
The worst experience?  I think being paranoid.  I'm not sure if it is due to the fact that I am trans and am afraid of peoples reactions to me, or if I am just afraid of muggers or something.  I am much more afraid of going out into the dark than I was.  Before starting my transition, I had no problem walking outside in the dark, or doing some things I am more afraid of now.  That is for me, one of my worst experiences.


Also, I saw in another one of your posts that you were thinking about doing a youtube thing.  Be warned, you are going to get a lot of positive, and a lot of negative feedback.  I thought that I could handle the negative better, but it is harder than I thought.  It can really get you down if you aren't careful.
"There comes a point in life when you realize everything you know about yourself, it's all just conditioning."  True Blood

"You suffer a lot more hiding something than if you face up to it."  True Blood
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Valerie Elizabeth

Oh yeah. The suicide stuff made things really hard.
"There comes a point in life when you realize everything you know about yourself, it's all just conditioning."  True Blood

"You suffer a lot more hiding something than if you face up to it."  True Blood
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sweetstars

Please note, ALOT of people who transition DO NOT like being associated with TV/CD.  I am neither, and me transitioning is complete seperate phenomenom of those who identify with thier birth sex but like to wear cross-sex clothing for whatever reason.  Some may call me a seperatist, but please be aware, this association is not one you should make, as not everybody likes it, in fact it bothers many who have transitioned.  I am not a CD or TV, and don't feel any association with that lot, I am a woman plain and simple who had to go through alot to get it right.

Also I am not A TG/TS.  I transitioned to the person I identified as, I changed my assigned sex, not my gender.  Transition is something you do, not who you are.  One is not forever trans, one transitions, the end.  Even the MTF terminology bothers me somewhat. It does not focus on who I am as a person, but rather a past I don't want to associate with.   

Transition is serious business, and to me there is a prove it factor.  I don't like false associations (those with CD/TV) or alot of the terminology I find essentially dehumanizing.  I did lose my family over transition, but at the same time, family is not as important as some people think, in fact as an indipendant adult, I would argue they are not important.  But to me transition is something one does, not an identity. 
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tekla

As should be obvious from the above, the meanest thing I've ever experienced along those lines is the attitude of other people in the same boat.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Miniar

Realisticly, you can expect that most people will be completely unable to understand what you're going through and why.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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tekla

you can expect that most people will be completely unable to understand what you're going through and why.

That's true about a lot of stuff.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Miniar

Quote from: tekla on September 04, 2009, 12:40:20 PM
you can expect that most people will be completely unable to understand what you're going through and why.

That's true about a lot of stuff.
Technically, it's true about everything.
We can't know that the person next to us experiences the same pain caused by the same source in the same way.
No two people are the same, work the same, feel the same, experience the same thing the same way. We are all "alone" in this way.

"You are a beautiful and unique snowflake, but so is everybody else."




"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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tekla

But we do have common things we share as parts of a group, which is why most humans like being in groups so much.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Miniar

Yes we do, we have things "in common". We just don't experience it the same way.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Myself

According to some people you could experience eating more pies to get your breasts to grow even more!
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Hannah

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Jeanett


The best thing for me, starting transition was was the peace in my mind my HRT gave me. And knowing I'm finally is on the right track.

The worst thing is fear, for losing my daughter, and not be able to complete my transition.

I know this is a little of topic, but I like to know.
Sweetstars. Since you don't associate with TV. CDs and you are not a TG or TS wat are you doing on a TG Forum?   ???

Hugs Jeanett



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aubrey

Quote from: Myself on September 04, 2009, 03:09:13 PM
According to some people you could experience eating more pies to get your breasts to grow even more!
That's what I've been thinking lately...since I'm having a hard time losing wieght to look better I may as well gain some for the same effect.
Quote from: Miniar on September 04, 2009, 02:08:48 PM
Technically, it's true about everything.
We can't know that the person next to us experiences the same pain caused by the same source in the same way.
No two people are the same, work the same, feel the same, experience the same thing the same way. We are all "alone" in this way.

"You are a beautiful and unique snowflake, but so is everybody else."


Generally....generalizations generalize and cliches are like the plague.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: TristanV on September 04, 2009, 02:41:36 AM
I have read alot of the women in this forum and it seems like most of you have pretty much had good experience. I do not want to focus on the negative things but i believe that it is important to be ready for the good and also the bad parts of transitioning... If i may ask you... What's the meanest thing you personally experienced being a TS/TV/CD/TG? how bout What's the greatest thing/s? What should i expect from people when i am transitioning and when i finally become fulltime?

HRT didn't work on me. I have been on HRT for over 10 years and it hasn't worked on me. I have tried many different types of HRT and anti - androgens but I still haven't achieved any kind of fat re-distribution. my legs are thin and my upper body too big, I have very little breast growth and no butt. I look like a guy from a rock band (long blonde hair but no shape). More information should be put out across the internet and in journels that HRT is very limited and doesn't work on everyone. I have been very upset about my own experiences and I originally thought I was prime material for a gender change but I now know it doesn't work the way you think it's going to work.

My friend (who is also TS) started HRT in 1993 and she has also had the same experiences. She has had a lot of operations to compensate for the lack of fat re-distribution including liposuction, breast augmentation and various facial surgery. But she still looks stick thin and no shape or figure. She has been full time since 1993 but still get read from time to time which is very difficult for her. She also has tried everything and has more or less resigned to the fact that it hasn't worked for her and she has given up to the point of now dressing androgenously and keeping a low profile.  I thought she was pretty but she gets read but I think this is mostly due to the lack of physical body shape rather than facially.

Other people may have far better experiences than we both have had and HRT may have worked for them.You did want honest answers to your questions which I have now given to you and I have tried to present an account of my own experience and the limitation of my own transition.
Living in the real world, not a fantasy
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Cindy

Hi Honey
As others have said there are oceans between TV/CD and TG. OK, Legally Blonde caught me on a screw up recently (sorry hun, didn't mean to be ignorant but didn't like the flame reply).

I really think you need need to speak to a therapist. From your pics you seem to be getting lots of kicks from dressing up. I think most girls want to look nice, but it's mainly for us as indivduals, and the other girls in the room. Most of us feel nice dressed up, but it's not in a sexual conintation.
Sorry not trying to be negative but going the SRS road is long.

Huggs

Cindy
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: CindyJames on September 11, 2009, 05:02:36 AM
Hi Honey
As others have said there are oceans between TV/CD and TG. OK, Legally Blonde caught me on a screw up recently (sorry hun, didn't mean to be ignorant but didn't like the flame reply).

I really think you need need to speak to a therapist. From your pics you seem to be getting lots of kicks from dressing up. I think most girls want to look nice, but it's mainly for us as indivduals, and the other girls in the room. Most of us feel nice dressed up, but it's not in a sexual conintation.
Sorry not trying to be negative but going the SRS road is long.

Huggs

Cindy
That's right Cindy as I pointed out to you earlier, there is a vast difference between TV's and someone like me who has suffered their whole life with gender dysphoria. But Tristan wanted to know the pitfalls and limitations of HRT and the experiences of others within the transitioning process. I also think speaking to people here with experience is more beneficial than Tristan speaking to a stuffy therapist who will not have the same experiences as someone who has actually gone through the transitioning process.
Living in the real world, not a fantasy
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K8

Back to Tristan's original question: The answer is it all depends.  It depends on you and the people around you.

There are physical limitations, like Legally Blonde's very unfrotunate experience with HRT.  There are social limitations, like a lot of other posts on this site.

If you are fortunate in you looks - and it seems you are, Tristan - it is easier.  If you have the inner strength to push through the rough patches - and there will be some - it is easier.  If the people around you already accept you and you have a good, supportive social network - it is easier.  If you live in an accepting area - it is easier.  If you have the financial resources to not be depending on the kindness of others - it will be easier.

As someone who for decades denied I am TS and figured I was 'just' CD, I can tell you there is a big difference.  A good therapist can help you discover for yourself what you are.  It is then up to you to decide what to do about that.

Good luck, Tristan. :D

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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