Quote from: Adrian on August 10, 2009, 12:11:07 AM
Could have been a low dose, too.  Just trying to gain its benefits without its "side effects" - you can tell her face has masculinized.  So a long period of a low dose of T could have given her those results.

Yet again, though, like you said - it's hard to tell.
But I want more than that.  (Yes, I am aiming for the stars, I know)

body builders don't take 'low' doses of t, they take thousands of mg at a time.

Quote from: Mister on August 10, 2009, 12:15:09 AM
body builders don't take 'low' doses of t, they take thousands of mg at a time.

Really?
Well, I'm ignorant on such matters.
It must have been something akin to going in short bursts on and off or something... Eh, I wouldn't know.

Some googling on my part has led me to a couple of sites stating clitoral growth as a possible side effect of HGH.

I'd read a bit about her. I believe HGH is still classified as a steroid hormone because of it's makeup. She had some FFS to trim her jaw and such, but before the FFS and implants she looked just like a man with long hair. She is suspected of having CAH (google it) or a partial hermaphrodite or maybe PCOS. She could have produced the testosterone on her own, and taken HGH and that could have caused it.

I'm pretty sure it's a combination effect of the two hormones.

SilverFang

Quote from: SilverFang on August 10, 2009, 10:56:54 AM
I'd read a bit about her. I believe HGH is still classified as a steroid hormone because of it's makeup. She had some FFS to trim her jaw and such, but before the FFS and implants she looked just like a man with long hair. She is suspected of having CAH (google it) or a partial hermaphrodite or maybe PCOS. She could have produced the testosterone on her own, and taken HGH and that could have caused it.

I'm pretty sure it's a combination effect of the two hormones.

SilverFang

Well, due to our findings of HGH and T's effect on genital growth - which, in men with buried penis can result in a normal size after treatment - I find it hard to believe she'd be even of acceptable female makeup after that, unless she didn't take much.  Even if she were intersex, which could be likely, it would probably yield similar results to genetic men getting treatment.

I am seeing my doctor tomorrow and was wondering whether anyone had anymore information on HGH or Testo cream for me to give him!

I already have the documents that Josh sent me but that is it.

Cheers

Jay

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but I was skimming this one and noticed speculation between some users on how a female body builder who takes 1000+mg of steroids to gain muscle could have a clit only so big as compared to a transguy...

From what I understand, people who use steroids for body building don't have it in their system CONSTANTLY the same way a transguy is lined up to. While a transguy may be on a smaller therapeutic dose, he is supposed to have it in his system constantly, period. Isn't T bioactive for two weeks, usually? Body builders will go through 'cycles' of steroid use, where they use, gain mass, and then try to maintain and build upon that before they go through another cycle of steroid use- injecting more at a time doesn't mean it lasts longer, it'll still only be in their body for however many weeks, and afterward they give it a break. Not that I'm an expert.   But hopefully that clears it up some.

Quote from: Cairus on May 11, 2010, 04:51:18 AM
Isn't T bioactive for two weeks, usually?

Depends on what it's suspended in. T in water must be injected daily. It has a really short half-life in the blood.