I have already gotten some good voice advice but I had some questions that maybe someone can answer.

I have managed to get a pitch i like at about A4. And I think my voice might actually be passable at that when I speak at that pitch but it still seems a little to vibrateish.  i guess what i mean is there is to much ressonance, so how does one go about reducing ressonance?

While talking on the phone and being gendered will give you a good idea if your voice is female, it may not be "available" at the moment.  Maybe you want to consider picking up a recorder and get feedback from that.

Julie

Quote from: Julie Marie on November 11, 2009, 01:53:19 PM
While talking on the phone and being gendered will give you a good idea if your voice is female, it may not be "available" at the moment.  Maybe you want to consider picking up a recorder and get feedback from that.

Julie

Thats what I've been doing, and so far my voice sounds rather Fem, and even sounds like my moms sometimes, but it still seems to have some quality I think its the ressonance, that makes me think that if someone new II was TG or could see me they would at least know...

You might look up Candifla on YouTube, she has a pretty comprehensive set of videos about that and is a hoot to watch too. Her own vocal transformation, and she demonstrates it, is nothing short of amazing.

I use my ipod to record myself and practice, it's great quality and plenty of room to ramble on. The Nano is going for like $150 now and has a camera too. I used my cell phone before, but the length was really limited and the quality wasn't all that great.

for resonance you need to play with your mouth size and pharynx size.
Trying coughing and make it sound higher in pitch and feminine.

Coughing as far as I know is not affected by the vocal folds themselves, if you make it feminine or higher in pitch, it's probably due to changes in pharynx size.

Learn to use the muscles there!

go "mmmmmmmmmmm" until you feel it vibrate more in your head and more to the front of your month (you'll feel it on your front teeth). Once you have that reference point, practice with other vowel sounds and then words and then sentences. 

If it's in the back of your throat, or in your chest, your resonance is in the wrong place. Resonance makes a big difference, you can do the same pitch and move the resonance from your chest, to your throat and then to your head/mouth -- it actually sounds different. A really high pitch with a chest voice won't sound girly.

Keep practicing.

Quote from: gothique11 on November 13, 2009, 02:09:40 AM
If it's in the back of your throat, or in your chest, your resonance is in the wrong place. Resonance makes a big difference, you can do the same pitch and move the resonance from your chest, to your throat and then to your head/mouth -- it actually sounds different. A really high pitch with a chest voice won't sound girly.

Keep practicing.

Very different, even if it doesn't seem like a big change from what the speaker hears on her end.

For me, this sometimes makes it difficult to feel if I'm in the right place or not, especially since the right place is sounding more and more familiar. 

An observation from an old timer if I may?

I'm nearly 30 years post-op, but for various reasons which I won't go into (as it is a rather long story) my voice never actually broke and I have a natural contralto singing and speaking voice. Over the decades this has probably saved me from any suspicion many times.

However - my observation is that, within reason, gender perception is seldom actually as much about pitch itself as people seem to think. The attack (whether the sound is harsh or smooth), the intonation, the timbre, the variation in sound volume and quality, the animation of the voice, even the use of language seem to me to be of rather more importance.