Quote from: tekla on November 16, 2009, 08:18:13 PM
Like the planes that the practice was named for, stealth does not mean invisible, it just means it don't show up on radar, but anyone on the ground can look up and say "it's an airplane."  In a similar manner, just because no one calls you on it does not mean they don't know, more like they just don't care - or are bored with the entire deal.

Knowing and suspecting are different things. Looking at someone you can't really "know" if they're a guy or a girl. Especially when line between guy and girl is so blurry in reality.

What people "know" gender-wise looking at people is in reality nothing more than what they "suspect" based on cue's.

People get mistaken for the wrong gender all the time, trans and cis alike. If being occasionally read as the wrong gender means that people "know". Then there's a lot of cisgender people who apparently other people "know" are really the other gender too.

The problem is so many trans people seem to have this mental perception that they're in some way being deceitful. That someone might learn their dark secret that they're the opposite sex to how they identify.

What is sex anyway? What makes someone a girl or a boy? There's no simple and clear answer to that which doesn't have complicated exceptions.

Quote from: tekla on November 16, 2009, 08:52:30 PM
People in real life tend to be more perceptive then those at the uni.

Putting aside the truely astonishing degree of arrogance in that statement.

Actually I don't really have anything else to say, I was going to make a point out of how you're simply making a point to which you have absolutely nothing tangible to base it on and making up vague generalities in response to any challenge. But it doesn't really matter. 

I don't really feel like arguing with someone who implies I (and anyone else at the university level) are not perceptive and don't live in the real world. You're clearly so dismissive that you wouldn't take anything some stupid uni student like me would have to say seriously anyway.

That is what I tell these people at CERN. You take all day at tiny subatomic racetrack, but you still can not split one tiny piece of fur! They are not so wise. I believe they make funny about the secret stealth. I even tell them, you go find Ms higgs bossum, I make smart with my time, no waist!

You're clearly so dismissive that you wouldn't take anything some stupid uni student like me would have to say seriously anyway.

Yeah, having a doctorate and teaching ten years at the uni taught me very little besides this.

But a university life is set for introspection, not observation.  Find a street hustler for that, they can see in a split second what 10 full professors can often stare at for a year and never get.

Quote from: tekla on November 16, 2009, 08:52:30 PM
People in real life tend to be more perceptive then those at the uni.

This actually made me lol, I've had a few professors whose  never ceases to amaze me. Let's face it honey, there's a few of us awesome, real life poeple as students but lots of nitwits too.

I missed you Tekla   

Quote from: tekla on November 16, 2009, 11:02:00 PM
You're clearly so dismissive that you wouldn't take anything some stupid uni student like me would have to say seriously anyway.

Yeah, having a doctorate and teaching ten years at the uni taught me very little besides this.

But a university life is set for introspection, not observation.  Find a street hustler for that, they can see in a split second what 10 full professors can often stare at for a year and never get.

I feel bad for the students who had to go to your class with all your presumptions then :p

Keeper wound, shutter tight.

R O F L M O A   

Some of my favorite professors are pragmatic and even a bit salty. I don't really trust the ones who aren't, and don't get as much from their classes either. Over this last summer term I took an online race and ethnicity course and was constantly at odds with the professor because rather than just fill in the blanks I challenged him and he challenged me right back. When we finally met I think he was expecting this clean cut right wing extremist because of our heated argument over Israel and can only imagine his surprise when a limp wristed ->-bleeped-<- sashayed into the room instead.

Anyway for as heated as our discussions were, he gives me glowing references now and we really click and respect each other. He prolly thinks I'm some self hating autogynophile and I know he's an out of touch hippy, but I demonstrated intelligence and courage and that's all you need with professors like that.

Me  I didn't start looking the part until recently, and last summer I was still experimenting with my hair (blonde!) and clothes and was quite a show sometimes lol.

Quote from: Becca on November 17, 2009, 12:29:18 AM
Me  I didn't start looking the part until recently, and last summer I was still experimenting with my hair (blonde!) and clothes and was quite a show sometimes lol.

You make funny of the blondes now? what is the colour of your hair?

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Quote from: Becca on November 17, 2009, 12:29:18 AM
Me  I didn't start looking the part until recently, and last summer I was still experimenting with my hair (blonde!) and clothes and was quite a show sometimes lol.

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Quote from: Becca on November 17, 2009, 12:29:18 AM
Me  I didn't start looking the part until recently, and last summer I was still experimenting with my hair (blonde!) and clothes and was quite a show sometimes lol.

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Quote from: heatherrose on November 17, 2009, 12:43:20 AM

It's just a rite of passage, Doll.

It's just a passage to you. That's very easy to say when you have the secret steath.

I wasn't making fun of blondes, I was making fun of me as a blonde. It was hideous! I went black for a while, and now it's dark brown with highlights and seems to suit me best. 

Quote from: tekla on November 16, 2009, 11:02:00 PM
You're clearly so dismissive that you wouldn't take anything some stupid uni student like me would have to say seriously anyway.

Yeah, having a doctorate and teaching ten years at the uni taught me very little besides this.

But a university life is set for introspection, not observation.  Find a street hustler for that, they can see in a split second what 10 full professors can often stare at for a year and never get.

out comes the 'my vagina is deeper than yours'

Teaching for ten years, and the amount of time taken to get a doctorate, one could say, have placed you in a rather introspected and blinkered view of life. Just because someone attends university, doesnt mean thier entire life is at university so that analysis falls down because it presumes a single environment.

Anyway, I take your 'real life is more perceptive and observant' and raise you 'Try passing late teens early 20s females, Its quite possibly the most difficult time ever... if one can pass in the gym locker at university, i wager no street hustler can tell the difference.

I pass in a locker room full of octengarians where the hot topic is comparing shingles

Quote from: Becca on November 17, 2009, 12:29:18 AM
Me  I didn't start looking the part until recently, and last summer I was still experimenting with my hair (blonde!) and clothes and was quite a show sometimes lol.

Well, if I'm really honest my natural hair is a dark blonde and a few years ago I changed it to an almost platimum blonde and it did seem to do the trick and helped and increased my confidence and ability to be stealth with people who did actually know me, but didn't recognise me anymore.

Well, I pass with the university girls because I'm old and they don't give me a second glance.

Quote from: Becca on November 17, 2009, 12:29:18 AM
Me  I didn't start looking the part until recently, and last summer I was still experimenting with my hair (blonde!) and clothes and was quite a show sometimes lol.

My friends were horrified when I went from salt-and-pepper to reddish-orange.  After that, they were grateful for whatever color I came up with.

- Kate

Quote from: heatherrose on November 17, 2009, 09:31:40 AM

Bellaon, if you are goin' to show up for class mind flapped,
make sure that you bring enough for everybody.

You're right, that was pretty cold on my part.  Tonight, brown bags of Mad Dog & crazy straws for all!

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Quote from: heatherrose on November 17, 2009, 09:31:40 AM

Bellaon, if you are goin' to show up for class mind flapped,
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Quote from: Becca on November 17, 2009, 02:07:45 AM
I wasn't making fun of blondes, I was making fun of me as a blonde. It was hideous! I went black for a while, and now it's dark brown with highlights and seems to suit me best.

Then I must join you in not making funny about these blondes with the secret stealth!