What I'm curious about... Is which one specifically or the percentages of what is released.


Specifically I read about this:

"three main forms of estrogen:
estrone (E1),
estradiol (E2),
and estriol (E3).
Estrone is converted from estradiol in the liver. Synthesized in the ovaries and metabolized in the liver, estradiol is the most physiologically active form of estrogen.
When taken orally, estradiol is converted into estrone in the small intestine. Estriol is the shortest-acting estrogen and has a weaker effect than estradiol and estrone. Estriol remains intact when supplemented orally, i.e. estriol is not converted into estrone, as is true with estradiol supplementation. Because estriol competes with estrone for receptor uptake when given in large or repeated doses, it may have an anti-estrogenic effect in selective tissues like the breasts or uterus.
Estriol doses must be increased up to three times the dose of estradiol to achieve similar effects (e.g. reducing hot flashes and vaginal dryness in menopausal women). In Europe and China, estriol is the preferred form of estrogen for HRT."


Off of http://allonhealth.com/natural-progesterone/differences.htm

That site. Its towards the bottom...


I'm just curious what estrogen is primarily released during sex/masturbation and or the proportion of it all in the common woman?


Because it would imply that doing sexual things too often could have anti HRT qualities cause I take specifically Estradiol which is metabolized into Estrone apparently, and not the other kind.


I'm looking for ways to balance myself and make it as potent as possible. It seems like subtle and something a paranoid would bring up but I'm just curious. My body is extremely sensitive to change (Freakishly) And I want these three years to freaking work properly. Right oh?


Does anyone know ?

Quote from: Kara-Xen on November 20, 2009, 02:31:21 AM
In Europe and China, estriol is the preferred form of estrogen for HRT."

Actually estradiol is preferred in Europe.

DHEA -- Without Supplements. DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone), a popular supplemental hormone, is released naturally during lovemaking. "Just before orgasm and ejaculation," Crenshaw says, "DHEA spikes to levels three to five times higher than usual."

Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) is an endogenous[1] steroid that has been implicated in a broad range of biological effects in humans and other mammals. Together with its sulfate ester (DHEA-S), it is the most abundant steroid in humans.[citation needed] DHEA is produced by adrenal glands, but also synthesized de novo in the brain.[citation needed] It acts on the androgen receptor both directly and through its metabolites, which include androstenediol and androstenedione, which can undergo further conversion to produce the androgen testosterone and the estrogens estrone and estradiol.[2] DHEA is also a potent sigma-1 agonist.[3] It is considered a neurosteroid.[2] it would apear that it is an anabolic steroid so i would say at three times normal levels it might interfere if you were a jackrabbit masterbator
jessica

How do you take it?  I ask because depending on delivery method, less is converted to estrone.  Orally a fair bit goes that way, IM much doesn't because it is used prior to going thru the liver.

I believe it has been shown that no hormones are released during sex and masturbation, only endorphins.

Quote from: Leslie Ann on November 21, 2009, 09:30:52 AM
I believe it has been shown that no hormones are released during sex and masturbation, only endorphins.

Why is the opposite ALWAYS said then?

I hear of estrogens and testosterone, and endorphins being released at once. WTF IS GOING ON?

GIVE ME SCIENCE *seriousface*

After some searching, there are two hormones released during and just after sex.

Oxytocin - Released during orgasm helps create a a bond. This primarily effects women.
Vasopressin - Released just after sex in males and females, which helps your kidneys deal with your body being dehydrated as a result of sex.

Neither will do anything to feminize or masculinize you.

I um, fooled around (all by my lonesome  ) ...for the first time in like three months or so yesterday morning. I did NOT like the post orgasm feeling. It was kind of a chill and a stomach churning. I'm pretty sure it was at least partially biochemical.

Peculiar topic, I'm interested in what else we discover on this. I could agree that even if it were a testosterone surge like I suspect, that there's no way it could be enough to storm through two powerful antiandrogens and then overwhelm all that estradiol...but it certainly felt funky.

becca...it doesn't have to be a testo spike...just a human body needing to empty its seminal vesicles...

incdientally why is it that non of the shrinks/researchers into TSism address the fact that we have urges. OMG! 
As the vast majority of pre-transition TS do seem to lead quite solitary lives it woudl seem logical that sex life might not be the same as those people in relationships.  But if we are even moderatley healthy we can't totally stop our genitals working and our brains from concocting all sorts of nice fantasies and I think it fairly logical that we all have some sort of sex life - but waht?

I'm pretty sure it was a chemical reaction, my vescicles have been dried up and empty for a while now lol  Of course, my house is freezing and I've been getting a cold, so who knows. I have a friend who shares her sexual dreams with her therapist (and me) and we do the best we can to help her process them. She's trans and her dreams are pretty normal. I've talked sex off and on with my therapist, and she just thinks I'm curious about girl parts. I don't think our sex lives are any more or less interesting psychologically speaking than anyone elses. Personally I'd just as soon psychology at large keep my sexuality or lack thereof at arms distance as they tend to screw things up big time (re:  ->-bleeped-<-).

Regardless that was pretty powerful negative reinforcement, I don't think I'll do that without another person again, it just wasn't worth it.