To the ladies:

Does the sexism bother you? Transitioning to womanhood, you may encounter sexism for the first time. Does it piss you off to suddenly be seen as less than - less competent, less worthy, etc. To have to work twice as hard as men to get any recognition or even your fair share?
Does it make you more on fire for women's rights because you can see the difference?

nope im black so im use to it. whenever i even do an ok job people are like. WOW good job. makes it even more easy to move up th ladder. plus its just the way the world works for now

I have encountered sexism when I was at work.  At first it really ticked me off, untill I began to look at it as the people involved were only validating me as a woman.

And I have always been a Feminist at heart, so I now can just be a little more vocal abiut it.



Janet

whenever i even do an ok job people are like. WOW good job.

It says some really bad stuff about our society - on the other hand, that's really funny.  My two best crew mates (going back some 2 decades now off and on) are African American and we see this stuff all the time, it keeps me constantly amazed at the basic level of dumbness in America.  A thought I find most comforting most of the time. 

hey tekla it is what it is. dont know much about how things are for you on the west coast but on this end things are very much still color and sex Oriented. Come to tiger ridge GA and see how little things have changed. May be not as color blind as California but in time who knows.  So don't get your undies in a bundle if someone make a cat call to you or slaps you on the butt

1.fake documents; 2.jobs; 3.$ for srs; 4.get srs & re-enter workforce; 5.worry about how hard it is to be female; 6.get phone that works

bellaon7 you are so right!

Quote from: Tristan on November 22, 2009, 08:53:15 PM
bellaon7 you are so right!

& I could not wish to be more wrong!

It doesn't bother me a whole lot.  While it's not right I've learned to use it for my own advantage.

-={LR}=-

I can't say I can speak from experience yet but Janet's take about validation is kind of where I start. I WANT to be treated like a woman to the last detail, to the point that I'd get warm fuzzies if someone condescended to me on that basis.

It's probably not "right" but it appeals to me.

well after hearing about it from other women that I've worked with over the years, I should have been perpaired.  But it caught me by surprise when it first happend. Now of course, I've adapted to it.  It's not right, but it's how things are for now...Little steps all the time.

Beni

Bellaon7 has it right.  Get there, then see if it's right, and try to fix what isn't.  It of course is other people's problems.  And of course, they become mine when I let them. 

And Tristan, I guess I could take a slap or two on the butt when it becomes a lady's butt!  Or slap back, and not the butt!  I know dear, that may be very problematic in your curcumstance. 

SusanKG

I get the impression that some guys think that IQ comes from the penis.  So no penis, no IQ.

Getting it from store clerks at Best Buy and stuff was bad enough, and sometimes I would sucker punch them on tech just to soothe my bruised ego.

But when it happened to me from team mates I had worked with for years prior to my transition I came to the realization that it may have been more ingrained than I first thought.  It was an unconscious response.  They may have actually thought themselves to be PC and understanding of other points of view, but they are dismissive of women at an unconscious level.

At first it was a little cute and gratifying to get that complete a validation, but now it just pisses me off.

-Sandy(I'll shoot the next guy who calls me "perky"!)

I've always been overly sensitive to it both when it is used against women and men.  I very much dislike expectations based upon sex, male or female. I've been exalted for things I had no business being praised for and stepped on for things I do well - all based on my sex.  I cannot help see it - so much so I feel a bit obsessed about it.  Whenever I encounter it I turn into "that guy" and correct the mis-attribution - sometimes to my detriment, but I hate to see it.  We can only break these preconceived ideas if we educate and not buy into the crap ourselves.

Sandy, your avatar pic is so per--uhhh, purty.

Sexism has always pissed me off. It still does. And it pisses me off to see how blasé people can be. Fine, learn to live with it. But don't pretend that this society is just, or that the "upside" of sexism is remotely worth it.

I do find it annoying and at the same time also realize this is what women have always dealt with. That, along with dealing with my everyday life as female, has made me realize just how clueless men sometimes really are (present company excepted, of course ). Women share a kind of inside knowledge that most men know nothing about, and which we really have no desire to let them in on.

What was really annoying was discovering that some women are just as guilty of sexism as men.

I 'transitioned' in 1974, at the age of 24. I didn't have a lot of work history but enough to see my change in status pretty dramatically. It was hard building a career as a woman (in a male-dominated field) and you had to be twice as good to be seen as an equal. Even then there were disparities in wage scale. Still today I see "the glass ceiling". My lifetime earnings are probably 75% of what I would have made as a male because of the difficulty of breaking through into management. In my 35 years, I have been a rabid supporter of equal opportunity and equal pay. I have also had a few companies 'against the wall', facing clear cut discrimination cases, and forced policy changes. I feel good to see my field now 10% female instead of the 1% it was in 1974. 

Yeah, it bothers me. I've experienced lots, and lots, and lots of it.

Quote from: interalia on November 22, 2009, 11:10:05 PM
I've always been overly sensitive to it both when it is used against women and men.  I very much dislike expectations based upon sex, male or female.

This.