Hi ladies,

I have a question for people who have a direct experience or knowledge in this matter either themselves or thru friends.
I want to enhance my hips and buttocks to have a true hourglass shape than just have an okay body.
I am stuck between getting implants and getting 'pumped' (either silicone or PMMA).
What are the pros and cons?
Thank you.

Hugs,
Jade

Silicone pumping is right out. You don't have to look very far to find horror stories.

I wasn't familiar with PMMA pumping.
PMMA is known as Plexiglas, Acrylic or Perspex.
In cosmetic surgery microspheres of this plastic are used in a carrier liquid.

Still, I wouldn't want something loose floating around in my body for the rest of my life.

I've always wanted to do something with my hips. They did widen a little, but nowhere near as much as I wanted. Sadly all my investigations eventually lead me to conclude that this was just one of those things which wasn't possible.

I agree with Renate silcone is VERY dangerous. It can lead to respiratory problems, premature skin aging and all sorts of other side effects. The second option deosn't sound to me like it would be much better.

Implants would worry me bacuse they can easily burst - particularly if you place them in an area like the buttocks where, when you sit, or lie on your side the pressures that they would be under would be massive.

The ONLY thing that I ever considered was a horrible procedure which involved deliberately breaking the pelvis and re-setting it at a wider angle by inserting a steel rod. But although I read some medical papers proposing this idea in the 1980's I don't think anyone has ever actually performed the procedure. It would certainly be costly and painful!

Sorry to be negative - I wish I could be more encouraging but you don't want to damage your long term health just for five minutes of hourglass. If you do find something which is safe, effective and not too expensive please do let me know.

Do not do pumping unless you want lots of pain later in life.

Pumping seems to be more a question of how long before you have problems than a matter of if you will have problems.

Quote from: jade on December 03, 2009, 01:38:56 AM
... my body does not put on weight the way I want it to even though I started HRT at 16, I am 24 years old now and I am 5 years post-op and I am on injectable Progynon Depot and I believe its the most superior way to administer estrogen to the body. I sometimes think, does this whole transition crap ever get better? We fix something, then there is another trace we have to cover. It's important for me because I live stealth, I want to express the way I feel inside and there is a woman in me who is curvy and tiny but stuck in the body of a woman who has a model type figure. A lot of people think its great to have a tall slim figure but I don't think so.

Jade
I too transitioned early. By 24 I too had very little fat! But by 30 different story! I'm now an F cup! Oh and I take a combined HRT with some progesterone.

Regarding stealth - it's honestly more about attitude than looks. I lived in stealth for 20 years after my op without discovery - eventually I felt guilty that I wasn't supporting my sisters so I came back out. Even now that I am "out" people don't seem to remember.

The point is I had no augmentation, no FFS, no prettifying labiaplasty - just basic functional SRS and in all those 20 years, though I could see the flaws no one else seemed to. Ok I had one advantage. I'm partial androgen insensitive, though I didn't actually know it at the time, so I have no discernable adams apple and my voice never broke, and that probably was my biggest help.

I do think you have to be honest with yourself. By all means do it. But do it for you, not for them. Because honestly my experience is that people see what they want to see. You don't need to be perfect to carry it off, and chasing perfection can be a very lonely and frustrating game.

I wanted working ovaries and the ability to have childern. Sadly the only ovaries I could ever have had never developed and were found, decades later, undeveloped and atrophied by an ultra sound test whilst investigating what was thought to be a strange bleeding abscess.

In an imperfect world I think it is probably better to learn to accept that, given where we started, we have come a long way towrds achieving our dream, but sadly perfection is not possible because we can't go back and change that Y chomasome, even if like mine it is flawed.

Wait until they can use bioidentical cells instead.... Might take a while, but plastics are usually linked to cancer, so keep them out of your body.


Acrylic sucks.

Rejennyrated, I do feel for you but you had the advantage of having an intersex condition.
Your body could not masculinize due to your androgen insensitivity and I think you are luckier than most of us. I do not think that's going to be the case with me because I only had Harry Benjamin's Syndrome which is pretty much transsexualism. My mum used to be very attractive when she was younger but she also is not the curviest woman around, she has always been tall and slim and had B-C cup breasts and not very defined hips, even a narrow pelvis. So speaking for myself, having gone through a male puberty till 16 and the genetics added to it, I don't think I'm going to develop the Kim Kardashian type body I am after just by using hormones, otherwise it would have already happened by now. And I am also a strong believer of 'Anatomy is not Destiny' so whatever surgery or procedure is available out there, I want to have it done. I don't just want to be stuck as 'a woman', instead I've always desired to be a very attractive woman, don't get me wrong, I do get told I am attractive still, but my body is not quite how I would like it to be, I like that really pronounced female type body with all the curves, no bony features or angles, but smooth everything. I do not want it to get attraction from males either, I just want it to be happy with who I am, because when I look in the mirror, I still can see the old version of me so I still have body issues. And I do believe body contouring implants can heal me. I agree with you on the attitude topic, I carry myself well in that way. But having a genetic female attitude does not enhance the body on its own.

And Kara, thank you for sharing the good news, it sounds wonderful but every time there is a new medical technology like a plastic surgery or procedure, it always takes time for them to get it approved by the governments, then they test it for a couple of years before it is available to general public and when it is, then it's the next best thing and it's on the news and everyone will be after it so it's likely that it will be even more expensive than getting implants and implants will be outdated and cheaper then, so it does not make things easier for us, if a woman like ourselves needs that body modification, we still have to fork out the cash, I am just really over with governments treating our transition related surgeries as purely cosmetic, because it's far away from the truth. What are they worried about? That the number of transsexuals are going to increase? I believe the society creates 'transsexuals', if we were all given a fair chance, we would have all started our corrective therapies very early and we would have gone through a regular female puberty and turn out like genetic women and we would not be spending years and wasting money trying to correct our bodies to make them half decent so we can adapt and hopefully have a normal life. I hope to see the day when we do not have to be in a stealth mode like a military aircraft anymore, we can actually come forward and say this is who I am without people's opinions changing about us.

Quote from: jade on December 03, 2009, 03:52:44 AM
Rejennyrated, I do feel for you but you had the advantage of having an intersex condition.
Your body could not masculinize due to your androgen insensitivity and I think you are luckier than most of us. I do not think that's going to be the case with me because I only had Harry Benjamin's Syndrome which is pretty much transsexualism. My mum used to be very attractive when she was younger but she also is not the curviest woman around, she has always been tall and slim and had B-C cup breasts and not very defined hips, even a narrow pelvis. So speaking for myself, having gone through a male puberty till 16 and the genetics added to it, I don't think I'm going to develop the Kim Kardashian type body I am after just by using hormones, otherwise it would have already happened by now. And I am also a strong believer of 'Anatomy is not Destiny' so whatever surgery or procedure is available out there, I want to have it done. I don't just want to be stuck as 'a woman', instead I've always desired to be a very attractive woman, don't get me wrong, I do get told I am attractive still, but my body is not quite how I would like it to be, I like that really pronounced female type body with all the curves, no bony features or angles, but smooth everything. I do not want it to get attraction from males either, I just want it to be happy with who I am, because when I look in the mirror, I still can see the old version of me so I still have body issues. And I do believe body contouring implants can heal me.

Wait until something thats been proven SAFE is available before ruining your great experiment in being as much you as possible!

Thank you for your kind wishes, I am planning to do something about my hips and buttocks this year, so I will be happy to share the good news with all of you. 

I have heard of people getting fat injections -- they use your own fat, and inject it down there. I hear it's safer than the other methods. I don't know who does it or not. And I guess you'd have to have enough fat to do that, and I also don't know how good the method is for large areas. *shrugs* You'd have to do some research into that.

Quote from: gothique11 on December 03, 2009, 04:56:15 AM
I have heard of people getting fat injections -- they use your own fat, and inject it down there. I hear it's safer than the other methods. I don't know who does it or not. And I guess you'd have to have enough fat to do that, and I also don't know how good the method is for large areas. *shrugs* You'd have to do some research into that.

Thats what i want/what i meant!

take out fat cells, culture larger amounts, reinject


It'd  be perfect.

Quote from: Kara-Xen on December 03, 2009, 05:42:22 AM
Thats what i want/what i meant!

take out fat cells, culture larger amounts, reinject


It'd  be perfect.

Yeah... or stem cells. That could be cool.

Quote from: gothique11 on December 03, 2009, 06:16:36 AM
Yeah... or stem cells. That could be cool.

READ MAH POST BEFOREEEEEEE

I have already considered fat cells, but most of the injected fat gets absorbed by the body and the rest can get uneven and lumpy or even calcify and go hard in some cases.

People have died from this, don't do it! Topic is locked!