This is for pre opp females..

Do you masturbate?

I'm not trying to be a pervert here, bust doesnt estrogen keep you from having erections, I mean, how do you guys deal with it?

As a guy, even a pre T guy, I have a pretty high sex drive, and I'm able to masturbate, just to get off, but my body doesnt turn me on.

anyway, just curious

Once you're on a decent HRT regimen your libido may drop.
Many report it crashing to the ground, some report maintaining some sort of libido.
The lowered libido is more a result of lowered testosterone than an increase in estrogen.
Sometimes the testosterone levels go lower than that of a natal woman.
(Even natal women are known to have libidos. )

There are a few reasons to masturbate while pre-op.
Libido plays less of a role in some cases.
There is an old wives' tale that maintaining continuous experience of orgasms makes it easier to have them post-op.
Nobody knows if this is actually true or not.
Another reason is the atrophy and shrinking of the skin on the "raw material".
Although insufficient material for SRS is not commonly a problem, the threat of having to have a skin graft is cause for concern for many.
There is a tendency in younger people for the skin to shrink if not stretched in some way periodically.

Quote from: Renate on December 09, 2009, 05:36:56 PM
Once you're on a decent HRT regimen your libido may drop.
Many report it crashing to the ground, some report maintaining some sort of libido.
The lowered libido is more a result of lowered testosterone than an increase in estrogen.
Sometimes the testosterone levels go lower than that of a natal woman.
(Even natal women are known to have libidos. )

There are a few reasons to masturbate while pre-op.
Libido plays less of a role in some cases.
There is an old wives' tale that maintaining continuous experience of orgasms makes it easier to have them post-op.
Nobody knows if this is actually true or not.
Another reason is the atrophy and shrinking of the skin on the "raw material".
Although insufficient material for SRS is not commonly a problem, the threat of having to have a skin graft is cause for concern for many.
There is a tendency in younger people for the skin to shrink if not stretched in some way periodically.

so you just dont get horny anymore, do you miss the libido?

yes, and yes.  I deal with it by masturbating anyway.  That sort of silly sounding saying that the biggest sex organ is the one between your ears?  Not entirely false.  If I'm really turned on, really into it, it still works.  It's harder to get to that point, and it can be frustrating sometimes, so that's not usually the primary goal of either masturbating or sex.  I can have these little orgasms that don't even require an erection, so I was a little skeptical of them at first, but yep, they're orgasms.  And they're nice in their way.  Stars and comets are reserved for special occasions. 

HRT killed a lot of my sex drive, etc etc. but like I was telling Nicky in a different thread, it didn't totally disappear, and once my levels got stable, some of it came back.  It's also different than before: as a guy sex was on my mind all the time.  Now it's just in the back, always there but not as prominent or important as it used to be. 

My GID killed off my sex drive a long time ago.  I sometime will but I usually had an erotic dream and yes I was a total woman in it.  But it isn't like 'guys' do, they are few and far between.



Blessed Be
Janet

Can I dissent with the prevailing opinion once again? There is such a thing as a healthy female libido. And it's not the same thing as "no desire to masturbate."

My sex drive has changed a LOT due to hormones, but it's not like I don't have one. And it's not like I don't enjoy masturbation either.

In some ways it's not the same, and I get the sense that a lot of others want to make that clear. It's not. Agreed.

But in some other ways... well it's kind of alike. And you CAN do it before and after hormones here. There is a huge difference in frequency and urgency. But otherwise... it still applies. At least to me.

okay I'm not on hormones (yet!!) so that for context...

I haven't had a "think about sex all the time" libido for...heck I can't remember how long. At least, if that means "think about me having sex all the time"

My GID manifests in kind of a weird way in terms of my sexual activity. I'm capable of it, and enjoy it when it happens, but when I "think about sex" I think of the sort of sex women who are the sort of women I'd like to be are having" if that makes any sense. I don't have the imagination to think of myself as the woman entierly, nor do I specifically crave the attention of men...but if I watch some porn or something I'm thinking something like "I'd like to be doing what she's doing"

So thinking about sex but not specifically thinking "I need to go have sex"

So, anyway, with that said - If the wife is feeling receptive and i get the chance, we have sex (and I'm not the sort who is so revolted by the "bits" that i want nothing to do with them)

Likewise, If I'm doing something - washing or shaving or some such - in which I physically stimulate the bits and the process gets started, I'm not above finishing it off.

I figure it's probably a good thing to be open and willing to do that sort of thing because if what they tell me about a regular stretching being a good thing if there's a long time between the start of HRT and/or orchie and the actual SRS, then I should be mentally ready to give the bits some attention every week or two, right?

Even if I'm not "horny"

for me it has diminished a lot but it still works when i want it to the feeling is different but there none the less im only 5 weeks hrt though
jessica

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww! with that?! give me an hatchet and let someone else have "fun" with it @@..

My levels are off at the moment, going to the doctor next week to fix it, but...

Once in a while I masturbate.  I'm usually not in the mood to do that though.  BUT.  I find that although I am not "horny" in the sense of getting an erection, I AM constantly finding myself fantasizing about being with a man and having that contact.  So it's not so much that I am physically turned on all the time, it's more like I'm mentally in heat.

Okay that makes me sound like I am a horny person, hahaha.  I just crave physical contact, I think.  It's a very different feeling from being male.  It's still "sexual" but the feelings are quite different.  I actually like them.  I don't feel like an animal anymore, I just feel like a woman with healthy sexual desires.  Yess!!

Quote from: Maiden on December 10, 2009, 04:26:29 AM
I'm mentally in heat.

That's an awesome quote. I was having issues with waking up in the mood so I moved my last dose closer to bedtime. It wasn't that bad really, I was just a little disconcerted by it. Either way I couldn't be bothered with it because as weird as it sounds fooling around alone actualy makes me more lonely. Anyway that cleared up the physical desire but yeah, the mental one is still there.

In heat, lol I like that 

Quote from: beth~chella on December 09, 2009, 05:33:47 PM

in my case, I don't really get erections anymore, and when I do it's just a 'semi' at best.  I masturbate in a similar fashion to a cisgendered girl. I'm very small down there and even the main bits can be tucked away to sorta act the same way as a clitoris and hood do.

I'm like beth and achieve what can only be described as a female orgasm to put a finer word on it, lol. Sensation lasts several minutes and is across the body. So its different but soooooooooo much better, lol. I thought I was the only one who could do that, lol even said to my counsellor who hadn't a clue how or what I was describing because I wanted to know if what I was experiencing was a female orgasm. I came to the conclusion as its so different from a male one it must be.

Stardust

Yes I do, more often then I have sex with my wife, which is more a matter of her handicap - pain from arthritis. For a dozen or more years I have not been able to achieve an erection. I don't miss it; she does. We get by without penetration (at least by that oversized clit I have  ), but we have orgasms, and I do as well when being a solitary person. I enjoy hers, and always use fantasy as a female to achieve mine.

I'm ambivalent about the penis, I feel because of it's everyday function - peeing, and being the source of sexual pleasure, it's just an oversized joy button to me. I would of course be happier with it in me, inverted. The testicles are what I hate - ugly protrusions hanging down, getting in the way, and serving no purpose for me.

SusanKG

I'm pretty much the same as Jessica. Sex isn't always on the front of my mind like it was before, and I can go for weeks without masturbating -- pretty much indefinitely, actually -- but I can get turned on if I want to. Like you said about yourself, my body doesn't turn me on either, but I just don't think about it.

Basically, it's something I can do, rather than something I must do.

Quote from: SusanKG on December 12, 2009, 12:58:50 AM
I'm ambivalent about the penis, I feel because of it's everyday function - peeing, and being the source of sexual pleasure, it's just an oversized joy button to me. I would of course be happier with it in me, inverted. The testicles are what I hate - ugly protrusions hanging down, getting in the way, and serving no purpose for me.

SusanKG

VERY well said and pretty much exactly how I feel.  As I have resigned myself to the financial unlikelyhood of SRS anytime soon, I have become more and more fixated on finding the shortest route to orchie.

Like Alyssa said I can go weeks without sex, but I'd rather not! I absolutely abhor the idea of using that thing down there to penetrate anything, and after starting HRT even getting a semi-erection would bring me totally to tears- absolutely no good for maintaining a mood. At one point I swear I didn't even care if I ever had sex again, if it meant having to perform as a male in any fashion whatsoever.

So, it was really an adjustment going from a male to a female sex drive, and it took a while. In that regard my partner has been invaluable, teaching me how to enjoy sex all over again- but as a woman, not a man. I must say now having experienced both sides there is no comparison: as a woman I've had some of the most incredible orgasms I've ever experienced, including the ability to achieve them with nothing more than nipple stimulation. But, I basically had to learn to enjoy sex all over again. I can't speak for everyone, but HRT totally transformed my sexual response to female, and I couldn't be happier with the results 

actually ther are some sound medical rasons for occasionally masturbating...keeps the skin nicely stretched, helps relieve the frustration although it makes me cry for lack of a vagina making me unable to have proper sex, takes away the built up frustration causd by a build up of sperm adn fluids...but mainly it actually empties the seminal vesicles see Wikipedia which store the secretions of seminal fluid that accompanies the sperm at each ejaculation... I have had two major incidents of SV Congestion due to disuse for up to a year at a time...I felt to have something like hard constipation then peed out a mass of blood and mush that turned out to be unuejaculated SV fluid that had gotten infected....so although it makes me cry I do try to empty myself every couple of months or so...just makes me feel so sad at having to do it though.
Incidentally the SV fall into disues from estrogen but I think it reasonanle to assume that post-op on low dose estrogen the SVs will regain some function and make the wetness of orgasm in the new vagina.

Yes. because I do not want to loose the ability to O and I want to maintain as much tissue down there as I can for the eventual srs.
Libido is basicaly nonexixtant. I make a point of having sex or masturbate at least every 3 days regardless if I am horney or not. I have found that I am able to get into it after awhile. (and if the bugger won't co-operate thier are ways to force it too)
However I will admit my sexual responce is definatly shifting from versatile to a bottom so to speak....So there is all that.

It's too traumatizing to touch down there which reallly sux because I'm very sexual mentally. Gawsh I cant wait for surgery.

i here you mija
jessica