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Why would anyone want to be a woman when they could be a man?

Started by Nero, December 06, 2009, 02:10:54 PM

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deviousxen

Replying to this thread again...


I'm much more free to wear ANYTHING assuming I ever passed! :D


like... I can rock the purse as my male friend puts it, and he likes them just for functionality... He usually brings a ton of stuff with him everywhere... Basically a small messenger bag is just that xD



But I have this whole new world of freedom with clothing... I can mash up so much more flavor than I used to be ALLOWED to. I can appease the inner shapeshifter by just having different styles depending on how I Feel.... Like How I did in boy mode for years, only with a larger spectrummmmmmm

:O
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YellowDaisy

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tekla

Hey, how many pages is the record for a thread on this forum?

Oh the game ones, like the title song game have gone on for like 60 pages before they started a new one, the ->-bleeped-<- thread proved very popular back when it ran, as did the one about sexual orientation.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Steph2003

My SO asked me that same question a few days ago – "You have been a "man" all of your life; why would you want to be a woman?  You have had all of the perks and benefits of being a man, you will never have the physical problems that women face (menses, child bearing, etc.) so why would you ever want to be a woman?"

I told her "because I am and have always been a woman since birth, just with the wrong "organ".  I want to be who I was meant to be."
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Janet_Girl

My ex always wanted to know if I thought the grass was greener on the other side of the gender fence.  I told her that I just wanted to be the real me.



Blessed Be
Janet
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lisagurl

Quote from: Nero on December 06, 2009, 02:10:54 PM
Only semi-seriously, why would anyone want to be a woman when they could be a man?  ;)
It is not a matter of gender roles which are artificial and set up by society. It is a matter of being physically correct with your mind.
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Keroppi

Quote from: lisagurl on December 12, 2009, 08:07:01 PM
It is not a matter of gender roles which are artificial and set up by society. It is a matter of being physically correct with your mind.
But without that artificial roles set up by society, there wouldn't be anything for you to be correct or incorrect with. ;)
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Alyssa M.

Quote from: Keroppi on December 12, 2009, 08:12:11 PM
But without that artificial roles set up by society, there wouldn't be anything for you to be correct or incorrect with. ;)

There's nothing artificial about not having breasts, having a low voice and bony a face, a receding hairline, facial and body hair, and genitals flapping around uncomfortably between your legs. There's nothing artificial about looking at your sister and knowing, "I'm supposed to look like that." The artificial, societal parts just add insult to injury.
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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rejennyrated

Quote from: Alyssa M. on December 12, 2009, 09:01:08 PM
There's nothing artificial about not having breasts, having a low voice and bony a face, a receding hairline, facial and body hair, and genitals flapping around uncomfortably between your legs. There's nothing artificial about looking at your sister and knowing, "I'm supposed to look like that." The artificial, societal parts just add insult to injury.
yeah what she said!

The thing I was "incorrect with" was purely and simply the male aspects of my reflection in the mirror when naked.

There do seem to be various types of transsexual. Some do seem to view their physical state as a barrier to true self expression. They do perceive themselves to have the wrong "gender" role.

Then there are those of us who had a sympathetic upbringing and thus managed to self express reasonably well anyway. We mainly didn't like our physical attributes and haven't ever really changed our societal role. Transition for us was not so much about changing our behaviour as changing our appearance.

I suppose some might define as androgyne. I personally couldn't do that. I feel I am definitely a woman, but I am also happy to be what I would describe as a fairly down to earth, practical, no nonsense and no frills woman. Thats why I walked out on my first gender psychiatrist in 1979. John Randall thought that if you were going to "choose" to be a woman you had to choose to be ULTRA femme. I violently disagreed.

There is after all more than one type of woman that one can choose to be, and I come from a family where even as far back as the 1880's a lot of the women were high flying. My great great Aunt for example (Charlotte Angas Scott) was a professor of Mathematics at Bryn Mawr college in Pennysylvania.

Thats the type of woman that I choose, and who would be a mere man when you could be someone magnificent like her.
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jami w.

Quote from: Nero on December 06, 2009, 02:10:54 PM
Only semi-seriously, why would anyone want to be a woman when they could be a man?  ;)

why you ask? umm pretty simple for me really, yes i was born a male. fortunately
my inner desires, feelings, emotions, an how i feel are  that of a woman . im a very sensitve,
person. im nurturing,  very understanding, i care bout peoples thoughts, an how they feel.
i enjoy feminine things colors, clothing, my man hehe. i love the way he holds me in his arms
cuz i feel safe, when im with him!! how to describe it in words is really hard omg!!! umm but ill try thou. so here goes. he looks at me the way i look at my inner sole as a female. he doesnt see me as a male. so how i see myself is a real 100% female but on the outside youd think of jus 2 gay guys. ive got my girl friends an ive got my guy friends who all accept me for who an what i am.

yes i wanna have a family, but the way i want my family? is i wanna carry him/her for 9 mons an give birth. ha yup i said it id rather get knocked up then knock up some one!! yea i kno. i would rather live the life of a female. for the simple reason of this, guys are into manily things an im like so not!!! they wanna go to the parts store n live there. i dont so i dont go. guys r so mean lol, as
they hold in there feelings well alot do. they r rough an tough, id rather be held by that then be one. does this make ne sense? to you i hope cuz i feel like im jus rambling on here haha
 
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jmaxley

It really shocked me the day I realized most women don't hate being female.  I had just assumed it was the natural state for most girls.  I have trouble understanding why someone would want to be female but I can completely understand someone not being happy with the body they were born with, no matter what gender/sex they are.
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LordKAT

Quote from: jmaxley on December 17, 2009, 07:49:05 PM
It really shocked me the day I realized most women don't hate being female.  I had just assumed it was the natural state for most girls.


Ditto
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Teknoir

Quote from: jmaxley on December 17, 2009, 07:49:05 PM
It really shocked me the day I realized most women don't hate being female.  I had just assumed it was the natural state for most girls.

And how!  :laugh:

I was under the impression it was just part of being immature, and one day I'd "grow up" and change gender.
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wannalivethetruth

Why would anyone want to be a man? ewww.... yucky and hair and just not me at all!
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Aaron Chris on December 06, 2009, 05:05:22 PM
I personally don't want to be a woman, but I can understand that people want different things. Maybe I don't understand their thinking, but that's okay. They probably don't understand mine either.

But you look like a very attractive woman in your profile pic? that's the biggest problem for many of us being in this situation no matter which way were going..
Living in the real world, not a fantasy
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K8

Naturally Blonde, 
For some of us our looks are a curse.  Some of us look very masculine but know in our hearts that we are women.  Some of us look very feminine but in our hearts know we are men.  (And I don't think Aaron looks all that feminine, but perhaps you see things I don't.  To me he just looks young, but then I'm more than three times his age.)  In the same light, some of us take hormones for years but our bodies don't seem to change that much despite the fact that our brains are hard-wired as the opposite gender.

I always knew I would never pass as a woman because I was too masculine-looking.  But for many of us there comes a point where we no longer care whether we can pass or not – we must live in the gender we are.

I know that men are far superior to women ::), but I am a woman regardless.  I really didn't get a choice in the matter.

Excuse me, I have to go clean the house and get the meal ready before the big, strong men come home. :)

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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insanitylives

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on December 19, 2009, 11:51:50 AM
But you look like a very attractive woman in your profile pic?
What?
Why.. Did you just call HIM a woman?
How's that even remotely acceptable?
Would you like it if I insisted on calling you a man? No? Show a little respect.
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Alexie

Quote from: insanitylives on December 19, 2009, 07:58:43 PM
What?
Why.. Did you just call HIM a woman?
How's that even remotely acceptable?
Would you like it if I insisted on calling you a man? No? Show a little respect.

Well said, and probably that didn't even warrant a comment, but well said anyway.
"On the plains of hesitation lay the bleached bones of millions
Who at the dawn of victory sat down and waited
And in waiting died"
(George Cecil - 1923)
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Ryuu

Quote from: insanitylives on December 19, 2009, 07:58:43 PM
What?
Why.. Did you just call HIM a woman?
How's that even remotely acceptable?
Would you like it if I insisted on calling you a man? No? Show a little respect.

I wasn't going to say anything, but thanks.

Quote from: K8 on December 19, 2009, 03:01:29 PM
(And I don't think Aaron looks all that feminine, but perhaps you see things I don't.  To me he just looks young, but then I'm more than three times his age.)

Thank you. Though I look a lot more feminine in person unfortunately.
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Teknoir

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on December 19, 2009, 11:51:50 AM
But you look like a very attractive woman in your profile pic? that's the biggest problem for many of us being in this situation no matter which way were going..

WTF?! FACEPALM.

You can't be serious.

The biggest problem is being attractive? What, more important than being yourself?

You wouldn't be suggesting people that were attractive in their birth assigned presentation should not risk transition for fear of losing that all so important attractiveness, would you?

I expect this sort of comment from the general public because they don't understand what we go through  - but from someone here? Wow. Just wow.

I really hope we've all misinterpreted that post.
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