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How old were you when you realized....

Started by Robin., December 03, 2009, 06:21:31 PM

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FairyGirl

I stayed with my grandmother as a very young child, and she also kept other neighborhood children. Then she thought nothing of putting boys and girls in the bath together, so by the time I was 4 years old I had serious full blown case of vagina envy- and here I was with this old dangly pokey out thing and it caused me terrible sadness. Sometimes it would get all bigger and hurt for no apparent reason and that scared me. It was so unfair, and I didn't understand why I had to have it and the other kids (girls) didn't. I would tuck it between my legs at bath time because I was so ashamed of it. Luckily my grandmother also condoned me playing dolls and dress up with the girls, something my parents would have been shocked and angered to learn. So by the time I hit kindergarten, I felt truly trapped being a yucky ol' boy and those feelings just never went away, despite years of fighting them because I was convinced I had no other choice.

Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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V M

I knew at childhood

But I was afraid to do much about it until just a few years ago
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Alexie

Quote from: Virginia Marie on December 19, 2009, 08:38:55 PM
But I was afraid to do much about it until just a few years ago

Aint that the truth!

The one thing I have now realized is your 'brain' gender (your real gender) is not something you can manipulate or 'correct' as I have tried (unsuccessfully) to do all my life. It is a tremendously powerful force and what is at the core of our very being. It appears to come in cycles but I think there is something about reaching forty years old or more that brings all this to a very powerful, all consuming head. And you know what... I am beginning to get a little excited about the prospect of where I am heading.

Alexie
"On the plains of hesitation lay the bleached bones of millions
Who at the dawn of victory sat down and waited
And in waiting died"
(George Cecil - 1923)
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Robin.

Quote from: Dianna on December 19, 2009, 04:37:07 AM
I note some folk saying 2 or 3 years of age, highly unlikely at that age. Unless you have a sister/s and you're mother has stated you were more like a baby girl than boy?

i'd Agree that it is unlikely to realize that you are a girl/boy at that age because one doesn't normaly identify in that way, or recognize the difference. but It is possible, and probably depends on your state of consciousness at that age. I dodn't realize I was different untill I was maybe around 8, but I had a very sheltered life.

Oddly though, i have clear memories from when i was a baby, in fact younger than 1. But I think this is because I had a corctation of the aorta that put me in surgery when I was 7 mounths old, and the trauma, I think, awakened me or imprinted certain memories. For example the only time I was in the hospital when i was a baby, was when I was 7 mounths old. but I remember clear as day being wheeled somewhere in a bed with plastic sides bars, holding my moms finger before I was pushed away. Even odder, the only colors I remeber seeing were orange and white, and the clear things...if thats a color...
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Dianna

Quote from: Dianna on December 19, 2009, 07:01:30 AM
Fair enough then Alexie, I have very vague memories of being 3 yrs as I was hospitalised for 12 months. It sits there vaguely me screaming the childrens hospital down when my parents went home.

It just wouldn't happen nowadays as most large hospitals have live-in parent facilities in this country.

I stated the above a long way back.
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Natasha

Quote from: Matilda on December 11, 2009, 05:04:51 PM
Is it restricted? and do they make you read Charlotte'sweb? >:-)

LOL ;)




hahaha :laugh: you've been there, haven't you?


Quote from: Dianna on December 20, 2009, 12:53:27 AM
I stated the above a long way back.

glad to see you stand corrected. 

just because you or other people don't remember when they were 3 years old doesn't mean that i & others don't either.  iow a blanket statement, but kudos for clarifying what you said.
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LordKAT

I remember being 2 AND 3 years old very clearly. Sorry if others don't. I remember the event that made me realize I wasn't as my sisters are very clearly also. Funny thing, so does my younger sister.
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aubrey

Quote from: Robin. on December 20, 2009, 12:46:47 AM
Oddly though, i have clear memories from when i was a baby, in fact younger than 1. But I think this is because I had a corctation of the aorta that put me in surgery when I was 7 mounths old, and the trauma, I think, awakened me or imprinted certain memories. For example the only time I was in the hospital when i was a baby, was when I was 7 mounths old. but I remember clear as day being wheeled somewhere in a bed with plastic sides bars, holding my moms finger before I was pushed away. Even odder, the only colors I remeber seeing were orange and white, and the clear things...if thats a color...

Sorry to be off topic...I have a memory of having a diaper changed and some lady that wasn't my mom was doing it...anyways the only colors I saw were rusty colors....orange, amber, reddish, yellowish, etc. and the edges of everything was fuzzy kind of like iron filings i suppose. Anyways it's cool to finally hear another person say the same thing about colors at that age :)
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Butterfly

I was 3 or 4, and yes I've got a very vivid memory of those days, too.
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spacial

4 years old.

Tried, several times to make the change, but sadly, the realities of life have knocked these back.
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Keroppi

It varies with people of course, but probably the most important issue in whether one remember something from when they were very young is whether there's anything particular stand out for them to remember. Realizing being different (gender variant to one's body) is a major event, so it stand out and hence would be remembered.
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spacial

Quote from: Keroppi on December 21, 2009, 08:20:57 PM
It varies with people of course, but probably the most important issue in whether one remember something from when they were very young is whether there's anything particular stand out for them to remember. Realizing being different (gender variant to one's body) is a major event, so it stand out and hence would be remembered.

I spent years wondering if my feelings were as a result of some forgotten incident, perhaps I was just a very bad, dirty person, or perhaps it was something more weird.

We can second guess ourselves from now till the end of time. All that leads to is guilt and depression.

We are what we are. It doesn't matter why. We don't need justification.

The only question is, are we harming anyone?

No.

















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Valentina

Re: How old were you when you realized....

When I learnt the differences between boys & girls.  4 years of age.
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Jeannette

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Robin.

Quote from: mija on December 21, 2009, 05:05:47 AM
Sorry to be off topic...I have a memory of having a diaper changed and some lady that wasn't my mom was doing it...anyways the only colors I saw were rusty colors....orange, amber, reddish, yellowish, etc. and the edges of everything was fuzzy kind of like iron filings i suppose. Anyways it's cool to finally hear another person say the same thing about colors at that age :)

"rusty" colors... thats a perfect discripticon. My memories from around 2 years old all have color though.
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doctorx

I knew something when I was very young, but then it got buried and didn't resurface until I was about 20.
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noeleena

Hi...

  The parodox for me is . hence what i am now.

I have no memory from age 5 back.  a mind blank
& not  much up till 7 . i spent a lot of time in hospital . & have no idear as to why .
   I saw male & female as being the same . just no difference . At age 10 to 11 . i knew i was different  just in what way no idear . yet knew i wonted to be like the girls .
From about age 16 i was thinking both male & female at the same time . & did not relate to men . of cause i did not know the word androgynous or what it ment then . yet was brought up as male . in our day no one would have known how to deal with people here like me if i had said i m a andro . 1947 thro to 60 s . for us it was the assylum & be fixed .
  So age 10 on is when i started to know what ..who i was . / am .just taken 50 years to understand .  & 11 more   living .

    ...noeleena...

Hi. from New Zealand, Im a woman of difference & intersex who is living life to the full.   we have 3 grown up kids and 11 grand kid's 6 boy's & 5 girl's,
Jos and i are still friends and  is very happy with her new life with someone.
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Adio

When I talk to therapists or curious cispeople, I always want to say around 3-4 like I read a lot of people saying, but I look back and don't remember having any feelings about gender that young.  I was just a kid really, not identifying with male, female, or anything.  I remember not always liking the clothes my mom picked out of me; they were often "cute" and "girly". 

It wasn't until about 8-or-9-years-old that I realized something was different about me.  Most of my friends were girls, but I felt more drawn to boys and copied their behavior.  My closest friend was a boy.  I got into fights on the playground.  I felt weird and different from my classmates.  My shoulders were too broad, I was too tall (at the time), I wanted to wear boys clothes.  But I never told anyone.

For years, I kept my feelings to myself.  I was uncomfortable in my own skin.  Late elementary and middle school, I dressed as a boy in my room, putting my hair under a baseball cap and packing with a sock.  I used an ace bandage sometimes to try to flatten my chest.  I was never quite satisfied with that.

I came out as a lesbian in early high school.  This gave me more freedom, I thought, to be masculine.  With more exposure to the community, I learned what it meant to be transgender and realized that I was actually a guy this whole time.  I was 15 when I started therapy.  I'm 20 now and on T.  :)
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Automixes

One of my earliest memories is of sticking the garden hose down my shorts so that I could pretend I was using it to pee. I think was two or three. I cannot remember a time in my life when I didn't think that I was supposed to have a penis.

But, I'm still comfortable being socially female, so I don't know if this means that my gender identity is simply not binary or if I'm still in denial and haven't accepted my own identity. Anything involving sex or my genitals is clearly, strongly male, but then everything else is so "ooh, glitter and fairies and push up bras!".
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