I wish there was a way for doctors to make us our own sperm.
Idc if its not exactly the same as biomale's, I just want to be able to pass on my genes just like any other guy. I want something to carry my dna, I want to give a girl a baby.

Dysphoria is hitting its worse here...
My sister is pregnant again, I was happy for her but then it just made me think about myself. Im a little depressed right now. I wish I would've been born in the right body. Why can't I be a real boy.

Sorry to rant. I just had to get it out and thought you guys would be the only ones to understand.

you know that thread a while back?  the gene switch thing that turns ovaries to testicles?  maybe in the future something like that will come along for humans.

Not sure if you've had a hysto yet, or if T is going to make you infertile (i think it does in some people?) but I'm pretty sure they're working on a technique to create babies from 2 eggs.  Thats a possibility I'm hoping for in the future for sure.  [this was first mentioned to me 6 years ago in hs bio so I'm sure they've developed more on it by now]

technically you do have an equivalent to sperm... they just get menstrated out of you one at a time as opposed to the pleasant ways bio guys get to dispose of theirs. 

Quote from: GnomeKid on December 25, 2009, 03:40:50 PMbut I'm pretty sure they're working on a technique to create babies from 2 eggs.

I think that would only produce female children, however. Since there's no chance of a male Y chromosone getting in (unless one person is intersex... but I'm not going to try to reason how that might work to myself or y'all right now)

Still, if that could work. That would be freaking sweet.

I guess I am fairly lucky in this respect because I have never once had the desire to bear children myself or produce them any other way.  I seem to lack this desire to reproduce    Dunno whats wrong with me really, it just has never been a problem for me.  Sterile is my idea of perfect 

Can we post links?  I've got a link to an article about scientists making sperm from human bone marrow.

This?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8138963.stm#id8130000/8139200/8139232-audio
They began with stem cell lines derived from human embryos donated following IVF treatment.
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The Newcastle team say the sperm were fully mature, mobile sperm and they have produced a video to back up the research.

or this older one?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6547675.stm
Scientists say they have successfully made immature sperm cells from human bone marrow samples.

Yup, the second link.

Quote from: Alessandro on December 25, 2009, 06:21:33 PM
I guess I am fairly lucky in this respect because I have never once had the desire to bear children myself or produce them any other way.  I seem to lack this desire to reproduce    Dunno whats wrong with me really, it just has never been a problem for me.  Sterile is my idea of perfect 

Relax - There's nothing "wrong" with you (or me... I also fall into this catagory).

There's plenty of people out there that don't want kids. Sometimes it can feel like society condemns us as "wrong", "selfish" or "immature" because we don't want to breed, but sometimes it's the right choice.

I might not understand the desire for kids thing, but I sure as hell understand the body dysphoria.

Quote from: Teknoir on December 25, 2009, 08:33:43 PM
I might not understand the desire for kids thing, but I sure as hell understand the body dysphoria.

^ Seconded. Personally, I'm more the type that's... perfectly content to adopt. There's enough kids running around our planet. But yeah, I definitely understand the dysphoria. And I can even see how it'd be nice to know that you have the option, even if you never even wind up using it. But yeah, maybe the gene-switch thing might work eventually for something like that.

Quote from: jmaxley on December 25, 2009, 06:47:27 PM
Can we post links?  I've got a link to an article about scientists making sperm from human bone marrow.

Sounds interesting.

I want kids someday.
I want to have at least 1 of my own.
But I don't want to do it the way I was made, I want to be able to do it the way I should've been. I don't want to get pregnant, I want to get a girl pregnant. Its not fair.
But yeah I do want to adopt, im not saying I don't. I just would like to be able to pass on my dna, my genes, me. The "right" way.

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Quote from: Josh on December 25, 2009, 03:16:57 PM
you know that thread a while back?  the gene switch thing that turns ovaries to testicles?  maybe in the future something like that will come along for humans.

Im hopeful for it, but there's always a but... lol

Hey CCC,

I know exactly how you feel...I've always wanted kids of my own and the way that men are suppose to.  It would be a great feeling to get a girl pregnant (mutual consent of course! Planning to have a child)
Its just risky after going on T which can cause infertility but then also have eggs stored is quite expensive and they only last 4years which then u need permission from the government to store them longer (in australia that is).
It rly sucks that it cant happen...hopefully something will come along soon.

Quote from: Alessandro on December 25, 2009, 06:21:33 PM
I guess I am fairly lucky in this respect because I have never once had the desire to bear children myself or produce them any other way.  I seem to lack this desire to reproduce    Dunno whats wrong with me really, it just has never been a problem for me.  Sterile is my idea of perfect 

If only more people were content with sterility, eh? It would certainly reduce suffering in the world (of course that depends on the numbers.)

Maybe the idea of pregnancy freaks me out enough that I want to be sterile.

I'm not sure how I would feel about it if I could impregnate a woman. (Actually, it would probably be a "hey, why not?" deal for me. Not as if I would object to my part in the equation lol.)

Hope the "ovaries into testicles" thing works out. I just have a feeling it won't really be available in my lifetime. And it's really too bad, eh? We can only hope (well, not really. You could enter the field yourself if you're young enough/have the time and money to do so.)

Quote from: JoshB on December 26, 2009, 05:09:17 AM
Hey CCC,

I know exactly how you feel...I've always wanted kids of my own and the way that men are suppose to.  It would be a great feeling to get a girl pregnant (mutual consent of course! Planning to have a child)

Im glad someone feels the same way.

I've never had any interest in having kids of my own, but I would definitely be open to adopting or helping to raise a partners children. (I could be a step-dad). As others have pointed out, there are lots of children in the world that need to be adopted or placed in foster care, and I would much rather raise a child that needs a new chance at a good life than have a child that matches me biologically. 

I think a big part of this is that I have pretty severe scoliosis, and went though several surgeries and years of physical therapy.  There is a possibility that it could be genetic and I wouldnt want to take the risk of passing it down.  Not to mention the additional issues that I would have if I ever became pregnant (not that I would ever consider it, but I knew I never wanted to carry a child before I realized I was trans.

Quote from: SilverFang on December 26, 2009, 05:21:38 AM
If only more people were content with sterility, eh? It would certainly reduce suffering in the world (of course that depends on the numbers.)

Maybe the idea of pregnancy freaks me out enough that I want to be sterile.

I'm not sure how I would feel about it if I could impregnate a woman. (Actually, it would probably be a "hey, why not?" deal for me. Not as if I would object to my part in the equation lol.)

Yeah, I always thought that having no kids is the best thing people can do for the environment!  I have a phobia of pregnancy, I have only had 'front' sex a few times but each of those times I just obsessed about the chance of pregnancy even to the point of anxiety and tensing up during sex (but that was other dysphoria too).   As for getting women pregnant...I don't fancy women so I wouldn't even if I could    so...I guess its up to my little sister to pass the family genes on