I have read through a few of the posts on this board of the forum and i have seen alot of posts like "I am going female" or stuff about hormone drugs e.t.c and several of peoples display pictures show them in full women's clothing e.t.c it was my understanding that a androgyne sees them self as a third gender, a grey spot somewhere between male + female that to me could make it seem unusual to want to look female or take hormone drugs? that to me sounds more like pre-op transgender; or am I mistaken?

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Thanks

There are a lot of different ways of being androgyne Some people it is totally in there head other people switch from one "normal" gender to the other in terms of presentation some of us feel the need to be neither M or F and others (myself included) feel the need to be both with a presentation style commenly reffered to as gender->-bleeped-<- thats giving mixed messages I'm on hormones to create a fem body but I'm not getting rid of the beard some people go with the presentation of there opisite sex or engange in activities that are seen as only for 1 sex we live in a binary world and even if we push the boundries we are mostly seen as either Male or Female maybe as guys in girl clothes or vice versa or as freaks when constently told that if your not one you must be the other fiting in can be so much easier that proudly saying I'm different for most TS people passing in very important for me passing as me is when a young child says is that a boy or a girl or when you hear people say did you see that and giggling just after they have passed me walking the other way. but everyone here is different some live in one binary sex but feel very in the middle.

I don't think there i any single model of how to be, or look, androgyne. It seem some folks like to try out emphaizingone gender or another. Or they may dress female to balance what they feel is a "too male" physical presentation.

On the other hand, identifying as "androgyne" may, for some folks, serve as a milestone on the way to being transsexual...a necessary experiment for someone trying to find their "true" self.

Dan

There's a HUGE diversity within the trans community. More than a number of folks realize. So a bigendered person (such as myself) will feel the need to switch between the two, but isn't choosing one or the other. (So I will often dress either fully female or fully male) There's people *I* would call androgyn which is somewhere in the "grey" that doesn't get read as male or female. Then we have what Kinkly was talking about. The "gender ->-bleeped-<-" (which I often fit into that catigory myself..leaving my breasts unbound, but applying my make up beard) so there's just a huge variety of identities even within the "androgyn" heading.
Basically...the way I see it the Androgyn SECTION of the forum is for everyone who doesn't seem themselves as MtF or FtM. HTH

I switch between feeling male and female. When i'm in female mode I like to dress as a female and play around with makeup and wigs. When i'm in male mode I have zero interest in doing that. Whichever mode I happen to be in has a lot to do with what is going on in my life; when things get stressful and busy the boy comes out, when i'm able to relax then hello there girl.

Like others have said, this is the "miscellaneous" forum where there is really no set definition for how people are, other than they feel transgendered in some way.

And we're funnier over here, too 

Hi.. 
  This ??  is  like asking a worm . are you male or female .  the worm does not know . & nor do some of us . how we dress is only one way of saying this is who i am .   really its how we are wired . for this kid it is . not what my body looked  like.  or how it looks like now .

      From age 10 i knew i was different .  & to say i saw no difference between male & female you would say i was nuts . or i would be put in to the assylum .  & then sorted . by ele shock.   meds . & then told i was a boy ...so i keeped my mouth shut ....
  so i had a boys body . did that make me a boy .  only if you saw my body .
What the D R s  did not see 62 years ago . was im a andro . let alone the word he would not have read my mind . if he had he would then have said . ummm  what the hell do we have here . so i was marked as a boy .

    i m both. male & female . from birth . how i dress is as a woman I m accepred as one . & live as one . so to save the peace . it works
How i see my self is right slap bang in the middle  60 % male  . 60 %  female . thats the best i can do . my profile world wide is as a woman ,
For us who are andro s . we know . other wise . try explaining to people on t v & groups i have stood in front of . & tell them. so what i said was i m  a transfemale who lives as a woman . with a male back ground .
Now people understand that . i m not a transsexual or even a dresser .
    so what you see is because we are all so different . we are different .
  Heres a interesting point
in the womb . for the first part  . we are nether male or female . yet more female . till t enters the womb . then the changes start & all the other details . my bits were both . so the t was not as strong  so i guess i had a bit more  e   hanging around . any way i only know what i am . & if others dont agree  then so what.  would they know .  i dought it . we know because thats who ...we .. are .

    ...noeleena...

for me its a compensation/ balance thing.  being female bodied gets me percieved as female. Binding my chest and wearing mens clothes makes me look more male. I don't always pass when I'm in "boy mode" but I do get the second looks, and "sir, im sorry, ma'am?" and make people think a little about gender. Putting a greater emphasis on my mascuine side seems to balance out the feminine, kinda making me neither.

Good question.

I would be one of those that want to look female and be treated as female in public. I dress in female clothing, and am on hormone therapy (just spiro and finasteride at this point). But I don't identify as woman. I think if you look at gender identity, presentation, behaviour and roles as potentially seperate things it makes it much easier to understand.

I've tried seeing myself as a woman inside but it just does not seem to fit, I have a non binary gender identity as far as I can tell. Weird eh? I don't currently have any intention of getting rid of my man thing and don't find it a bother, except in hotpants. Not that I really consider myself androgyne anymore, that does not quite fit either but I think I fit in with this crowd being non-binary transgender. I'm open to the fact that this could change. You never know I could be a woman hiding from myself, but I doubt it. My gender identity seems pretty solid.