did you try depo provera, did it affect you feminization, did it affect breasts growth,

Quote from: ifonlyican14 on December 22, 2009, 06:22:43 PM
did you try depo provera, did it affect you feminization, did it affect breasts growth,

I've tried everything over the last 10 years including depo provera which I found did absolutely nothing.

Depo provera is a rather nasty synthetic progestin. It is sometimes used in combination with estrogen in an attempt to boost bust development.

It was widely used in the late 1970's and early 1980's however these days true bio indenticals like microgest, Prometrium and Uterogestan are highly prefered because they cause less side effects.

My own HRT regimen, which I have described fully in another thread has always included a progesterone, and I have been fully satisfied with the results.

Quote from: rejennyrated on December 30, 2009, 12:53:42 PM
Depo provera is a rather nasty synthetic progestin. It is sometimes used in combination with estrogen in an attempt to boost bust development.

It was widely used in the late 1970's and early 1980's however these days true bio indenticals like microgest, Prometrium and Uterogestan are highly prefered because they cause less side effects.

My own HRT regimen, which I have described fully in another thread has always included a progesterone, and I have been fully satisfied with the results.

The same friend who suggested elleste-solo also suggested depo provera. Neither worked for me. I too have tried various progesterone's including the one's you shove up your butt! but I've never got any improvement with bust development..

Shame.

It's beginning to sound to me as if you are just one of the unlucky ones then. Perhaps you should look at alternative solutions like some surgery - I know that's not an ideal thing to have to do, but it happens to some people. My partner was also unlucky - I got a huge chest, she sadly had to go get hers augmented. It's just the luck of the genetic draw.

Mind you I personally found a huge difference between Provera (which I wouldn't now touch with a barge pole) and the bio identicals which I mentioned. For some time now I have taken Uterogestan.

Quote from: rejennyrated on December 30, 2009, 04:25:28 PM
Shame.

It's beginning to sound to me as if you are just one of the unlucky ones then. Perhaps you should look at alternative solutions like some surgery - I know that's not an ideal thing to have to do, but it happens to some people. My partner was also unlucky - I got a huge chest, she sadly had to go get hers augmented. It's just the luck of the genetic draw.

Mind you I personally found a huge difference between Provera (which I wouldn't now touch with a barge pole) and the bio identicals which I mentioned. For some time now I have taken Uterogestan.

Yea, just to cap it all I got a letter from my endocrinologist this morning and it the letter he says there's nothing that can be done to improve my fat distribution other than surgery. It's a kick in the teeth alright and doesn't help my on going depression and confidence. He's says we've tried everything and nothing is going to work. At least he's honest and straightforward.

what about liver damage ? Is utrogestan have the same effect on liver ? After when can i notice the effect of it ?

Quote from: ifonlyican14 on January 01, 2010, 05:22:01 AM
what about liver damage ? Is utrogestan have the same effect on liver ? After when can i notice the effect of it ?

There IS no liver damage from uterogestan - it is a true human progesterone not a synthetic progestin. So it doesn't cause the side effects of the synthetic.

As to when you would notice results no one can say... you may not get any - it totally depends on your body chemistry i fear.

I noticed almost instant results when I started on progesterone not least that my mood changed dramatically  for the better - the doctors here in the uK call progesterone the feel good hormone.

Ironically I'm on a cyclic dose so I get the mood swings that most women get  as the hormone balance changes over the month. But noting I can't live with. The bust development took several years - but it certainly did happen, I am F cup. That was without any augmentation, and my breasts filled out properly too (a lot of TS breasts don't).

The trouble is that no one can tell if it will work for you. Sadly response to hormones is a very individula thing - which is probably why susan rightly limits the discusssion of such topics. It is worth discussing with your doctor or endo though - and see if they will agree to a trial.

     I started injections of Depo-provera (synthetic projesterone) about 4 months ago.  I had to cut back on my use of spiro because my diet of fresh foods contrubuted too much potassium.  I immediately felt better, and soon noticed an increase in that sensitivity denoting a potential breast growth spurt.  Much welcome after 5 years on HRT.  My libido has increased quite a bit.  Your mileage may differ.
      Now as far as synthetic vrs. bio-identicles, you and your doc may want to investigate.  Suzanne Summers has made a fortune flogging bio-identicals and written several best selling books, she was on Oprah.  There is another side though.
     "The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the Endocrine Society, the North American Menopause Society (NAMS), United States Food and Drug Administration and the Mayo Clinic have released statements that there is no expected difference in benefits or risks of hormone replacement therapies using bioidentical molecules compared to those using non-bioidentical molecules, and also that compounded hormone products may have additional risks related to compounding. While CHRT and FDA-approved BHRT products have been extensively studied and are heavily regulated, compounded BHRT products are unregulated and lack an accepted evidence base.[3][5][14][15][16][17] Since pharmacy-compounded products are not subject to FDA testing and quality control measures, their potency, purity and safety have been questioned.[8]
   This is from the Wiki-please read up.   

Hi Cindy

Just to be clear here Prometrium Uterogestan and Microgest ARE NOT the same as the bio identicals talked about in those articles.

Those so called bio identicals are made from a plant extract and they aren't identical at all - in fact they hardly work.

The things I am talking about are true copies of HUMAN PROGESTERONE. They were made by some very big pharamaceutical companies and have been tested on various human subjects for many years but have only become widely clinically available in the last five or so years.

But they aren't the same as the stuff that suzzane summers has been pedalling - She was just cheeky enough to missuse the term bio-identical for something which wasn't!

i have read that progesterones may be converted to testosterone and have musculinization effect, is this true ?

Quote from: ifonlyican14 on January 02, 2010, 10:38:22 AM
i have read that progesterones may be converted to testosterone and have musculinization effect, is this true ?

The key word here is may. Yes I have already said that Progesterone is a chemical precursor of Testosterone and therefore can be converted by some people.

That's why all hormone treatments should be designed and supervised by an endocrinologist or a doctor because no two people are the same. Some people may get masculinisation, others will not and will find that the reverse occurs and the hormone boosts their feminisation.

The key thing is to monitor blood levels and then adjust the regimen accordingly for best overall result.

I repeat what I have said before. There is no one size fits all answer to HRT. While there are some general guidelines and starting points, if you want good results you have to be prepared for your doctor to experiment a little and design a program which is custom made for YOU!

Quote from: ifonlyican14 on January 02, 2010, 10:38:22 AM
i have read that progesterones may be converted to testosterone and have musculinization effect, is this true ?

I would think that's probably true in some cases. Some medications have had a reversing effect on me so I've had to quit them.