Quote from: tekla on January 04, 2010, 10:51:51 PM
Maggie, it tends to almost be a truism that we only get what we really want once its too late to use it, or after we don't care anymore.

Would that be evidence of a not so nice supernatural power at work? 

Maggie

Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
Euripides, 400something, B.C.E.

Quote from: Maggie Kay on January 04, 2010, 10:43:59 AM
I used to be really obsessed with boobs and filling out a bra was a real lift for me. Holding them in the shower is pleasant now but also immensely frustrating. Being a married late transitioner with a spouse who finds sex with women nauseating, I'll never have the experience of someone else touching or fondling them. That gets next to me almost daily, so I try not to think about even having breasts, which is quite a turnaround from the many many years I craved to have them. 

Maggie

Maggie, I'm going to ask you a question which may seem harsh and/or insensitive, so I want to stress that it absolutely is not intended that way. OK, so ...

Why do you stay married?

I ask that because I'm on the verge of transition and am, like you, married and middle aged. The single thing I dread most about the process is the pain I will cause my family and the possibility that I will be cut off from my wife and children. On the other hand, when I finally get the body I've wanted for so, so many years, I sure as heck would like to put it to the use for which it was intended ... and for me, personally (and I'm not trying to speak for anyone else here), that would include relationships with men ... and a guy's hand on my boobs! 

So it's a massive dilemma ... But I can't help feeling that the thing that would make both my wife and I happiest would be for both of us to have a confident, truly masculine man to love and be loved by. Because she, poor thing, has never had that, any more than I have ...

Quote from: Carlita on January 05, 2010, 03:33:24 AM
Why do you stay married?

I *really* can't speak for Maggie, but... if you could see the sweet, innocent, angelic face napping on the couch next to me...

"Sorry to wake you honey, but I want to divorce you so I can go have sex with men with my new parts. I'm sure you can find a job to support yourself. See ya."

Pesky things like love, loyalty, obligation, and a desire to fulfill marital vows and promises sometimes get in the way, even if it means a celibate life for the couple as best friends.

 


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Quote from: Marie731 on January 05, 2010, 07:04:34 AM
I *really* can't speak for Maggie, but... if you could see the sweet, innocent, angelic face napping on the couch next to me...

"Sorry to wake you honey, but I want to divorce you so I can go have sex with men with my new parts. I'm sure you can find a job to support yourself. See ya."

Pesky things like love, loyalty, obligation, and a desire to fulfill marital vows and promises sometimes get in the way, even if it means a celibate life for the couple as best friends.

My point, I guess, would be that I don't feel I've fulfilled my marital vows properly anyway because I've been living a lie ... So I'm not sure I'd have the right to expect anyone to stay with me. And - though I don't think she'd be mean or vindictive about it - I'm 99% certain that my wife would say that she's a woman and if she's going to be someone's wife, she'd prefer that person to be a man ...

Quote from: Carlita on January 05, 2010, 03:33:24 AM
Maggie, I'm going to ask you a question which may seem harsh and/or insensitive, so I want to stress that it absolutely is not intended that way. OK, so ...

Why do you stay married?

I ask that because I'm on the verge of transition and am, like you, married and middle aged. The single thing I dread most about the process is the pain I will cause my family and the possibility that I will be cut off from my wife and children. On the other hand, when I finally get the body I've wanted for so, so many years, I sure as heck would like to put it to the use for which it was intended ... and for me, personally (and I'm not trying to speak for anyone else here), that would include relationships with men ... and a guy's hand on my boobs! 

So it's a massive dilemma ... But I can't help feeling that the thing that would make both my wife and I happiest would be for both of us to have a confident, truly masculine man to love and be loved by. Because she, poor thing, has never had that, any more than I have ...

Carlita,
At 58, one of the things I have learned is that starting over now is far different than it was even at 40. Both of us realize that the practical facts are that neither of us is likely going to find another spouse at this age. That means if we do separate, our standard of living will be much poorer because we will be alone. My marriage is a second one and my wife was the love of my life.

I eloped with her twenty four years ago which caused both of us to be disowned by our families. We had a very lonely existence with no family contact since. Now, what can be gained by us separating? The little we both earn in the new economy won't allow us to be much above poverty. Together, we have enough to make it.

Plus she is in need of someone to help her as her hip is degenerating and with no possibility of hip replacement, someone will be needed to care for her. That falls to me. I owe her that much because she got cheated by marrying me. The torment she suffered watching me lose the battle against becoming female is my fault. To leave her now would be another blow to her.

That she doesn't love me anymore is irrelevant.

Maggie

Quote from: Maggie Kay on January 05, 2010, 09:01:34 AM
Carlita,
At 58, one of the things I have learned is that starting over now is far different than it was even at 40. Both of us realize that the practical facts are that neither of us is likely going to find another spouse at this age. That means if we do separate, our standard of living will be much poorer because we will be alone. My marriage is a second one and my wife was the love of my life.

I eloped with her twenty four years ago which caused both of us to be disowned by our families. We had a very lonely existence with no family contact since. Now, what can be gained by us separating? The little we both earn in the new economy won't allow us to be much above poverty. Together, we have enough to make it.

Plus she is in need of someone to help her as her hip is degenerating and with no possibility of hip replacement, someone will be needed to care for her. That falls to me. I owe her that much because she got cheated by marrying me. The torment she suffered watching me lose the battle against becoming female is my fault. To leave her now would be another blow to her.

That she doesn't love me anymore is irrelevant.

Maggie

Well, when you put it that way, I totally understand ... And  I wish you both all the contentment, companionship and friendship in the world ... How sad it is, though, to know that it is now too late to hope for something new ...

Quote from: Carlita on January 05, 2010, 02:00:55 PM
How sad it is, though, to know that it is now too late to hope for something new ...

That has to be that most depressing statement I've ever heard. It is also, I believe an incorrect statement. No matter what age, there is always time to hope for something new. Hope is the doorway that leads to fulfillment. You have to start somewhere, and hope is as good as any. If you don't lay the groundwork for something to happen then nothing will happen.

~Sarah

I had no intentions of derailing this thread and I'm really sorry that it has. All I was saying was that I did have wonderful expectations about breasts but got an unexpected side effect too. For the record, I do love them and it is one of my comforts just to give them a squeeze or two. 

As for hope, at some point, one does see the writing on the wall and one accepts it. That doesn't mean life is meaningless or horrible, it just means that you have to look elsewhere for satisfaction. At least, I got to live as a female which is a wonderful blessing. I bury myself in writing where I can have the life I missed.

SO back to the topic about boobs!

Maggie

Quote from: Maggie Kay on January 05, 2010, 05:08:55 PM
SO back to the topic about boobs!

As far as that goes, I wish I had some I have only developed about a 34A...barely...I'd call it more a 34AA. No worries though, It doesn't bother me so much as it hinders my ability to fill out clothes properly, since they don't really make clothes suitable for under-developed girls.

After SRS, I'm planning on having a BA sometime later this year, maybe September or something. It depends on how my finances look.

I do have to say though, that being under-developed as far as size has done nothing to quell the development of the...stimulation. I get some powerful almost-orgasms just from my BF working his magic on my girls

~Sarah

Quote from: SarahR on January 05, 2010, 05:38:51 PMI get some powerful almost-orgasms just from my BF working his magic on my girls

~Sarah

I recently experienced one of those powerful almost-orgasms (really I think it was full on) simply from my partner fondling/kissing them. That was definitely a plus to having boobs I wasn't expecting.

Quote from: SarahR on January 05, 2010, 05:38:51 PM
After SRS, I'm planning on having a BA sometime later this year, maybe September or something. It depends on how my finances look.

Keep in mind it's usually cheaper to do both at the same time, since it's one O.R. visit, one anesthesia (which is less of a risk too), etc.

Quote from: Marie731 on January 05, 2010, 07:13:30 PM
Keep in mind it's usually cheaper to do both at the same time, since it's one O.R. visit, one anesthesia (which is less of a risk too), etc.

I know, and if I could I would definitely get both done at once, but finances don't allow it. I'll have to just wait. I'm not too worried about it though. My breasts aren't too small to hinder my self consciousness for another few months.

~Sarah

A friends baby went after mine the other night, it was like woah hey easy there whipper-snapper those are just for show  I dug out my hand mirror and looked at them from the baby's perspective and the ladies have really filled out undreneath, I love how they are rounding out. However I have to admit I preferred the achy nipples to the deep-in-the-meat throbbing happening now, especially after being around that baby.

I have noticed the filling out underneath too.  And I had to laugh at the thought of the baby wanting lunch and you trying to remove the poor hungry baby.  You should have given the child a piece of pizza.

No No, Bad Janet.  Pizza is for older children.

Quote from: Janet Lynn on January 05, 2010, 08:57:19 PM


No No, Bad Janet.  Pizza is for older children.

lol cute

Quote from: CindyJames on November 27, 2009, 04:20:10 AM
So Jealous

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| This =) I know I know, patience =)

One thing that is not so good about boobs is having them hit the space bar or some other key when you lean in to get a closer look at the screen

You have that problem too?    Or if you turn to close to the door frame, and wind up on your knees. 


Janet