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Started by Tammy Hope, January 13, 2010, 04:03:41 AM

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Tammy Hope

Ok here's a random thought, it might not even make sense but I'm going to throw it out there.

I was glancing over a site last night that featured a bunch of "successful post-op Transsexual women" and among those photos, there were several women in their wedding gowns...

and I've been kind of noticing all day various images of women in bridesmaid dresses or formal gowns or other sorts of very fancy clothing and what's been rattling around in my head is this:

as lovely as those dresses are and as much as I'd like to be that pretty - I can't picture myself in such a dress.

and it's not about the fat - I have a perfectly easy time imagining myself at 160 pounds or so and able to fit into one of those, even imagining having the breasts to make it look good....but I can't close my eyes and picture myself "pulling off" an evening gown.

Why do you think that is?

my working theory is that it somehow relates to lack of self-confidence in my ability to project THAT feminine an image. Even when all the practical modifications had been done.

But I really don't know...the thoughts trouble me for some reason.
Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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lilacwoman

dunno. unless you've been berating yourself so badly for so long that you 'daren't' imagine yourself in the lovely gowns for evening or wedding... I certainly can imagine myself!
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tekla

Some people are fancy, others are not.  That's true for both men and women.  I actually know a lot of guys (not gay) who are very into wearing expensive suits, tuxes, Navy Dress Whites and all that.  Others, if they could get away with wearing nothing but a 10 year old pair of never-washed boxers and nothing else would do just that. I know a lot of women who think that putting a skirt and heels is silly, others who would not dream of going outside the house in anything less than full makeup and nice clothes.

I think a lot of it has to do with how, where and who you grew up with and around.  Like Hannibal Lecter said in Silence of the Lambs:
And how do we begin to covet, Clarice? Do we seek out things to covet?...We begin by coveting what we see every day.

I think that's way so many CDs at least are into a very retro look, they want the clothes they saw and wanted, but could not have, back in jr.high and high school. If you grew up around the Cotillion set I would be surprised if you didn't want one of those dresses.  If that was not your social milieu, then perhaps not.  I never saw the point, never did the prom deal (I went to a Grateful Dead concert instead, so kind of the direct opposite), never really liked those kinds of dresses.  But I do fancy the LBD cocktail dress, I'm sure because I spent so much time at events where girls did wear those, and wear them well at that.

It's a matter of taste and style to a degree, and a huge degree about what we covet also.
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Janet_Girl

#3
I have several dresses that are very feminine in nature.  Even a little black dress.  I have worn them a couple of time, but I really don't get a lot of chances to get prettied up.

I think if you found something that you really liked, you would wear it and be quite feminine.


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brittanyfear

I don't really see myself in clothing like that either, & I'm pretty small. I'm just not very formal.

Occasionally I wear skirts, but for the most part, I'm a jeans girl. Makeup, on the other hand, I'm always playing around with that.
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Tammy Hope

Well, given a straight up choice with all other things being equal, I'll take a skirt every time. I can easily imagine "church clothes" so to speak - a reasonable level of being "dressed up"

I look forward to getting in the proper shape and expanding my wardrobe in that direction.

It's probably just a confidence issue. i don't mean to imply that I wouldn't love to be able to pull off a formal gown or a wedding dress and be beautiful (relatively speaking) in it - that would be amazing.

I just have trouble imagining it. maybe it's because I've been so fat so long I'm having trouble discovering the "pretty" that (might be) is under all that.
Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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tekla

"church clothes"
Growing up Catholic in California that was pretty much what you were wearing on your way to, or from, the gym.  But then again the priests told me that god didn't care what was on my back, but what was in my heart. 

Pretty much I thought they were crazy too.  I'm sure salvation goes to the best dressed.  Sure seems that way in real life.
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spacial

I don't picture myself in anything to eyecatching either.

A knee length skirt, probably darker than lighter. Though I could go for a white cotton print.

I might have a pair of jeans, perhaps some other trousers. (Is that the correct term for women's in the US?).

A pair of patent black shoes, with rounded toes and a small heel.

Nice to think about it.  :)
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Northern Jane

I was married in a very nice white wedding dress - of course I was 26 and skinny then LOL! It wasn't really fancy (as in frilly) but it was stunning nonetheless. Much later (and much more "dumpy") I have been in formal 'middle-age' dresses in other people's wedding parties and looked quite presentable. I am pretty casual day to day but the old gal cleans up pretty good  ;)
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BunnyBee

I think you may be overthinking this a bit.  I think it just takes time to get used to something new.  I felt really weird and exposed bearing more of my shoulders etc. than I was accustomed to when I first started wearing girl's tops.  Now I'm pretty comfortable in all the different cuts and shapes they seem to come in.

I imagine it would be similar for you and dresses.  If you wear them a lot you'll probably eventually become totally comfortable in them.   :)
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Valerie Elizabeth

Quote from: Jen on January 17, 2010, 11:35:32 PM
I think you may be overthinking this a bit.  I think it just takes time to get used to something new.  I felt really weird and exposed bearing more of my shoulders etc. than I was accustomed to when I first started wearing girl's tops.  Now I'm pretty comfortable in all the different cuts and shapes they seem to come in.

I imagine it would be similar for you and dresses.  If you wear them a lot you'll probably eventually become totally comfortable in them.   :)

I totally agree.  When I went full time I was a little uneasy about being more exposed.  Shorter shorts than I was used to, lower cut tops, etc.  Since being full time for nearly a year I have become way more comfortable.  It's just something new to get used to.

I think you just need to get the courage and self confidence up, and just do it.  I know it's hard, but it takes time and perseverance to get where you want to.

Now I just need to get more clothes, I kinda have only like 4 outfits.  SRS trumps new clothes though, so I have to wait.
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Tammy Hope

Quote from: Jen on January 17, 2010, 11:35:32 PM
I think you may be overthinking this a bit.  I think it just takes time to get used to something new.  I felt really weird and exposed bearing more of my shoulders etc. than I was accustomed to when I first started wearing girl's tops.  Now I'm pretty comfortable in all the different cuts and shapes they seem to come in.

I imagine it would be similar for you and dresses.  If you wear them a lot you'll probably eventually become totally comfortable in them.   :)

Just to clarify - I LOVE skirts and dresses.

I'm just thinking of the specific genre of formal/fancy gowns....which is pretty much academic since I don't really anticipate ever having the need to.
Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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BunnyBee

Same deal, I would suggest wearing a prom dress everywhere you go, maybe even to bed, for a couple of weeks =P.
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FairyGirl

Quote from: Jen on January 17, 2010, 11:35:32 PM
I think you may be overthinking this a bit.  I think it just takes time to get used to something new.  I felt really weird and exposed bearing more of my shoulders etc. than I was accustomed to when I first started wearing girl's tops.  Now I'm pretty comfortable in all the different cuts and shapes they seem to come in.
I agree and think that's true for trying anything new.

But I'm still totally getting myself a nice lacy fairy gown to get married in, something like this one would be perfect ;)


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Nero

Quote from: FairyGirl on January 18, 2010, 02:39:35 AM
I agree and think that's true for trying anything new.

But I'm still totally getting myself a nice lacy fairy gown to get married in, something like this one would be perfect ;)

That's gorgeous, Fairygirl.  :)
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BunnyBee

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