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I want to be a boy!

Started by x-icecubes-x, January 17, 2010, 03:09:13 PM

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Silver

Quote from: Miniar on January 20, 2010, 08:33:04 AM
There'll always be something a "real man" can do that we can't. Not because we're not blokes, but because the ideal, the stereotype, it's not real.
What it can or can't do is an unrealistic thing to compare yourself with.

Like when women compare themselves to magazine photos. Photoshopped 'till they resemble cartoon caricatures of an unrealistic ideal.

So, yeah.. quit comparing yourself against something that isn't realistic anyway.

Whatever you may say, I'll probably never get to penetrate a woman and feel it. It's regrettable.
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Miniar

Quote from: SilverFang on January 20, 2010, 11:32:00 AM
Whatever you may say, I'll probably never get to penetrate a woman and feel it. It's regrettable.

There are cisgendered men who won't either.
May be regrettable, but doesn't mean you're not a man either.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Silver

Quote from: Miniar on January 20, 2010, 11:40:47 AM
There are cisgendered men who won't either.
May be regrettable, but doesn't mean you're not a man either.

Meh, fine. I don't think it makes me a woman.
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Aussie Jay

Quote from: Lachlann on January 19, 2010, 11:18:03 AM
I guess I'd be a little bit different. I probably wouldn't be suicidal if I were born a boy, but you never know.

I just don't think I'd be that different at all. I mean there are a lot of stories of FTMs transitioning and finally becoming themselves. I figure it'd be the same as that.
I'm sorry to beat a dead horse but I really want to know am I the only one who thinks I would be a completely different person had I been born male? I'm not talking about if that's good or bad at the moment... But your experiences make you who you are. I really can't imagine I would have been the same child. I definitely wouldn't have been the same teenager. Once again not saying there are not both good and bad points to being THAT guy but I would never have met the friends I have... I wouldn't have had the experiences I have... The jobs I've done... The sports I've played... I wouldn't have the character I have... I wouldn't have had to adapt and overcome and have grown etc.
Just wondering people's opinions...

A smooth sea never made for a skilled sailor.
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Carson

Quote from: Aussie Jay on January 20, 2010, 05:08:13 PM
I'm sorry to beat a dead horse but I really want to know am I the only one who thinks I would be a completely different person had I been born male? I'm not talking about if that's good or bad at the moment... But your experiences make you who you are. I really can't imagine I would have been the same child. I definitely wouldn't have been the same teenager. Once again not saying there are not both good and bad points to being THAT guy but I would never have met the friends I have... I wouldn't have had the experiences I have... The jobs I've done... The sports I've played... I wouldn't have the character I have... I wouldn't have had to adapt and overcome and have grown etc.
Just wondering people's opinions...

I completely agree with you. Yes I was miserable all through childhood and had serious problems as a young teenager but I would not trade my life for anything. Yes things would be much easier if I could start over and live my life as a male from beginning to end but I would not be the strong young man that I am today, nor would I be the same person without all the experiences that my life has entailed, the good and the bad.
Call me a cheat but I make my own fate.

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Aussie Jay

Phew... Was getting kinda lonely out on this branch dude.
Cheers.
And I couldnt have put it better.

A smooth sea never made for a skilled sailor.
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Carson

Quote from: Aussie Jay on January 20, 2010, 05:21:24 PM
Phew... Was getting kinda lonely out on this branch dude.
Cheers.
And I couldnt have put it better.

Haha I was kind of waiting for someone else to hop on there with you man but no one showed, I couldn't really figure out how to phrase it until now.
Call me a cheat but I make my own fate.

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Lachlann

Quote from: Aussie Jay on January 20, 2010, 05:08:13 PM
I'm sorry to beat a dead horse but I really want to know am I the only one who thinks I would be a completely different person had I been born male? I'm not talking about if that's good or bad at the moment... But your experiences make you who you are. I really can't imagine I would have been the same child. I definitely wouldn't have been the same teenager. Once again not saying there are not both good and bad points to being THAT guy but I would never have met the friends I have... I wouldn't have had the experiences I have... The jobs I've done... The sports I've played... I wouldn't have the character I have... I wouldn't have had to adapt and overcome and have grown etc.
Just wondering people's opinions...

Well, probably because being transgender doesn't really define me as a person, it just makes life a lot more difficult. Just like a cancer patient isn't exactly defined by having cancer, though the experience might make them value life a little more. They don't  have to have gone through cancer to value life a little more. Sure, I may not have participated in some of the same things that guys were brought up with or in the same way they were, but that doesn't guarantee that they're going to shape you as a person either. For example, just because you bring up a kid a certain way doesn't mean they're going to be exactly as you tell them to. And the values I was raised with, would have been no different.

People use stupid stereotypes on everything and it's easy to be misjudged on just about anything, but I feel like my personality and the person that I am was built not from a condition. I don't think it's taught me any major life lessons that I couldn't have learned from anywhere else. I'm not that kind of person who only feels empathy toward something if I'm going through it myself. In fact, I'd wager I'd still be sympathetic with people who are TG because I would have still seen the same things and be taught the same things. Being transgender has only truly crippled my life in the passed few years because I wasn't thinking about it nearly as much, though I was aware of it.

The thing is, there are too many different types of people in this world, who were raised the same way and socialized the same way who end up all being different from each other(my family is a testament to this.) And I can't really fully buy that I'd be a different person because I've always known what kind of person I am, it's just harder to express it sometimes. If anything if I were born a boy right from the get-go, my life would have been probably a lot better emotionally and I'd take that with all the disorders I have. I'm pretty much gimped by them at this current time, I can't even have a regular job. So with that in mind, I would choose being born a boy a from the get-go, because I don't see how it's necessary for me to go through all that and have added depression on top of everything else. Even without all my disorders, I still personally don't see the point. I don't get why people call me strong for having something that is unfortunate to have. And I honestly don't think I'm all that strong either if I'm having all these break downs. I'm not that kid who gets terminally ill and never complains or is never rude or all that.

But hey, this is just me.
Don't be scared to fly alone, find a path that is your own
Love will open every door it's in your hands, the world is yours
Don't hold back and always know, all the answers will unfold
What are you waiting for, spread your wings and soar
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Radar

Quote from: Aussie Jay on January 20, 2010, 05:08:13 PMI'm sorry to beat a dead horse but I really want to know am I the only one who thinks I would be a completely different person had I been born male? I'm not talking about if that's good or bad at the moment... But your experiences make you who you are. I really can't imagine I would have been the same child. I definitely wouldn't have been the same teenager. Once again not saying there are not both good and bad points to being THAT guy but I would never have met the friends I have... I wouldn't have had the experiences I have... The jobs I've done... The sports I've played... I wouldn't have the character I have... I wouldn't have had to adapt and overcome and have grown etc.
Just wondering people's opinions...

The Catch 22 is that if I had been born a bio-male and had a completely different life I would have never know the life I have now existed and therefore would miss nothing. You can't miss something you never knew or thought about.

I like to think about the "what ifs" on many things, but the fact is what's happened has happened and it is what it is. All I can do is move forward and hope for a better future.
"In this one of many possible worlds, all for the best, or some bizarre test?
It is what it is—and whatever.
Time is still the infinite jest."
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Lachlann

Quote from: Radar on January 20, 2010, 06:17:46 PM
The Catch 22 is that if I had been born a bio-male and had a completely different life I would have never know the life I have now existed and therefore would miss nothing. You can't miss something you never knew or thought about.

I like to think about the "what ifs" on many things, but the fact is what's happened has happened and it is what it is. All I can do is move forward and hope for a better future.

And I completely agree with that. I can think about the what-ifs of being born a boy on a positive and a negative level and all that but it's not going to change things. Dwelling on things like this has needlessly complicated my life and I just learned to drop it.
Don't be scared to fly alone, find a path that is your own
Love will open every door it's in your hands, the world is yours
Don't hold back and always know, all the answers will unfold
What are you waiting for, spread your wings and soar
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notyouraverageguy

Quote from: Lachlann on January 20, 2010, 06:26:14 PM
And I completely agree with that. I can think about the what-ifs of being born a boy on a positive and a negative level and all that but it's not going to change things. Dwelling on things like this has needlessly complicated my life and I just learned to drop it.

True, you shouldn't fret over things you can't change, I guess... the past is the past and no matter how hard you wish it won't change.
Gender expression is NOT gender identity.

Defective Catastrophe.
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Carson

Quote from: ccc on January 20, 2010, 07:09:28 PM
True, you shouldn't fret over things you can't change, I guess... the past is the past and no matter how hard you wish it won't change.

The way I look at it is that everyone has things about their past that they wish they could change, and not all of them relate to gender. The things that haunt me in my past just happen to be gender related, but that doesn't make me any more or less odd than most people, everyone has their skeletons in the closet.
Call me a cheat but I make my own fate.

http://www.formspring.me/carson1234
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tekla

I think that a lot of people look at the 'other' life as being some sort of perfect world devoid of any problems.  Most likely it would not have been like that.  When I used to ask people what time in history they would like to go back to, (and I blame romantic thought for this) the overwhelming favorite choice was "The Middle Ages."  I'm sure that when people think this they are assuming they would be the king, queen, princess - in reality, 99.99999999% of the people in the Middle Ages were peasants and plague victims.

I'm sure that if I was to picture life growing up as a girl I would have been the merit scholar (because somethings don't change) but I'd also be the head cheerleader, prom queen, class president, and in short the most popular girl who ever lived.  The reality might well have been different.  So if it was different how do you know that you would not have been 'that guy' (and every group/school class had 'that guy') who was pantsed and thrown into the girls bathroom, who was beat up for his lunch money, or just on general principals, or - and perhaps the worst - have the people - your peer group - in gym class fighting every single day over who HAD to have you on their team?  Real confidence builder there.
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