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Started by Hannah, January 21, 2010, 02:03:24 AM

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Cindy

Really, Tekla!!!
Hells bells.

A very close friend in the UK (30+ years ago) was stopped from being a front line pilot because his mother was Dutch and he may have split loyalties if needed to nuke Europe. Being a RAF pilot is incredibly competitive and difficult enough, he ended up flying RAF transports as his record/background/etc was so good.
And you guys have people who are religous biased running the USA airforce?

I never realised that the USA was so religon dominated, this site has expanded my knowledge in many ways. Not all of them comforting.

Cindy

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tekla

Really, despite all the folks who don't like what I say, I can't make it up.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/03/AR2005050301499.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/07/us/07muslim.html?ex=1360040400&en=61d39abfa542ddbd&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

The commandant of cadets, Brig. Gen. Johnny A. Weida, came in for particular scrutiny by the panel. He sent an academywide e-mail message to announce the National Day of Prayer, instructed cadets that they were "accountable to their God" and invented a call-and-response chant with the cadets that went, "Jesus ... Rocks."
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2005/06/24/the-air-force-academy-evangelical-alliance-an-oppressive-use-of-religion/


The report said it found that non-Christian cadets are subjected to "proselytization or religious harassment" by more senior cadets; and that cadets of other religions are subject to discrimination, such as being denied passes off-campus to attend religious services.
The report said that in at least two cases "highly qualified individuals were dissuaded from attending the academy ... after learning of the official culture of religious intolerance and hostility toward those who do not subscribe to and practice evangelical Christianity.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/03/airforce.religion/index.html
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Cindy

I have never commented about "I don't like what you say". Just, a number of times, in the antagonistic way you say it. It is, IMO ineffectual, you have a brilliant mind and I would like to see and hear it shared in a positive manner.

However, how can this sort of indocrination get through your constitution? I thought you had freedom of speech and freedom of religous belief enshrined? The more I hear this sort of post (yes I know an OXM) what control does Obama have? Is he (please this is not meant as a racist comment) regarded by these people as some "->-bleeped-<-'who got lucky, and do they respect him as the Commander in Chief? Who controls the USA response? I always thought it was the Pres, but thankfully after reading Nixon's biography he wasn't.But who controls it now?

I have to admit I thought I knew the USA, I don't think I do anymore. Do the USA citizens understand the implications of the comments we have brought up? Or as ever do the sheep want a shepherd? And propaganda rules.

Cindy

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tekla

Its a corporate state, run by the corporations, and for the corporations.  Just had a Supreme Court decision that pretty much cements it.  Large corporations - and not even American ones - are going to have complete and near total control over the election process by virtue of buying huge amounts of time to favor certain candidates, and at that, I don't even think they are going to have to buy, just threaten to.  And that's just the few they don't outright own at the current time.

We just had a huge health care debate in which the simple and obvious and practical solution (extending the existing MediCare system to everyone) wasn't even on the table, but what finally came out is not going to provide a single person who does not currently have insurance with some, but did - by some amazing turn of events - allows the medical corporations, insurance companies and the rest to make even more money.  Odd.

The total cost of that system - that many claimed would break the bank - were far less than the TARP bail-out, and that sucker was debated less then any three persons would debate the toppings on the pizza they were ordering.

Those banks, freshly rid of all their bad paper, just handed out bonuses that total more money that the states are in debt, more money than it would take to stop all home foreclosures for the next three years.  But, hey, who cares?

Most Americans want us out of the Mideast, but its not happening.

And antagonism (aside from being my best quality) is much better than cynicism, because it's still worth fighting for.  I'll take it as long as it means fighting rather than giving up and giving in.  Besides, brilliance costs, and no one is paying me here.
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Tammy Hope

Quote from: CindyJames on January 23, 2010, 02:13:51 AM
I have never commented about "I don't like what you say". Just, a number of times, in the antagonistic way you say it. It is, IMO ineffectual, you have a brilliant mind and I would like to see and hear it shared in a positive manner.

However, how can this sort of indocrination get through your constitution? I thought you had freedom of speech and freedom of religous belief enshrined? The more I hear this sort of post (yes I know an OXM) what control does Obama have? Is he (please this is not meant as a racist comment) regarded by these people as some "->-bleeped-<-'who got lucky, and do they respect him as the Commander in Chief? Who controls the USA response? I always thought it was the Pres, but thankfully after reading Nixon's biography he wasn't.But who controls it now?

I have to admit I thought I knew the USA, I don't think I do anymore. Do the USA citizens understand the implications of the comments we have brought up? Or as ever do the sheep want a shepherd? And propaganda rules.

Cindy

I will not get drawn into a debate with the very many folks here who disagree with me on specific incidents or points but I am compelled to point this out to you my sister-

When you interact with Americans in the transsexual (and LGBT) community you are dealing with people who are mostly on the far left fringe of American politics.

Anytime you deal with the 20% or so on the extremes, you get a warped view of where the mainstream of the country is.

go to the Free Republic forum and the far right fringe will tell you that the liberals are dragging the country straight to hell - go to Democratic Undergound or similar sites and they will insist that right wing fascists are already building interment camps for the gays - or even all liberals.

Both views are not remotely a reflection of reality.

If all you learn about the U.S. you learn from a very liberal group of posters (which is what you have here - a LOT of lefties and a few moderate-to-right posters who learn quick enough to keep their mouth shut) then you will BY DEFINITION get a skewed view of what things are like here.

Proceed with caution and try to diversify the point of view of your source material.
Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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