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Started by Osiris, January 14, 2010, 01:01:17 PM

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Osiris

Tips, tricks, where to get the binder you're looking for. Ask questions and share the information you've found here.
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Call Me Joe

Underworks is great, even if you don't have a credit card, which is good for those who go by paper instead of plastic. I got the 997 double panel, and I'm a size A, so they work well for me. I hear they work up to size B.

In terms of modifications/personal comments, I cut slits where belt loops match up on my pants, so (1) it doesn't roll up, and (2) my often baggy pants stay up without a belt. The only issue I get with this is that going to the bathroom takes one extra step, but if you're wearing a binder, you're already working for your appearance. Five seconds more isn't a major thing for me.

I've also found that it doesn't make your chest completely flat; it just kind of 'hardens' your chesticles. I saw today, though, that it doesn't matter with the shape so much. I met a friend of mine today I hadn't seen in a while while wearing the binder. When I lifted up my arm to catch my balance for a while (I was standing up), she was staring at my chest like one of my rats were crawling across my shirt. If your chest doesn't stick out, people tend to assume you're male, even if the shape is wrong. You can thank America's bad eating habits for that [moobs, muffintops, etc.] =] Even someone who KNEW I was female got confused, and I was only wearing that binder and a T-shirt. That tells you something.
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Miniar

I wear an underworks binder, one of them t-shirt things, and these are my little tips and tricks with those:
1. The seams cut in. Since I wear another shirt over 'em this is solved by wearing 'em inside out, cotton against the skin and seams out.

2. Rolling up. This is solved by taking the bottom edge and pulling it up over the binder, wearing it double. I pin it up with a safety pin and get the added benefit of twice the compression.

3. Wash. I just toss it in the machine with other clothes, go easy on the chemicals, and then let it dry on a hanger to keep it well shaped. (no drier in the house and even if there were, I wouldn't risk it myself)
I wash mine when they're dirty or a little "loose" (which they get after wearing 'em for 3-4 days straight).

4. I do not sleep in my binder.
It does affect my dysphoria, but I would rather take good care of the foundation for the nice chest I aim to get in a year or two than create any more problems for myself.
The skin needs to breathe, the tissue needs the rest.

5.?????

6.Profit.



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Radar

Quote from: Call Me Joe on January 14, 2010, 09:10:25 PMI saw today, though, that it doesn't matter with the shape so much.
If your chest doesn't stick out, people tend to assume you're male, even if the shape is wrong.

Yeah, I've been noticing that too. And if someone's not sure they stare at your chest. Stop staring! It's rude and creepy! >:(
*sigh* I look forward to top surgery.
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FolkFanatic

Quote from: Radar on January 15, 2010, 11:19:23 AM
Yeah, I've been noticing that too. And if someone's not sure they stare at your chest. Stop staring! It's rude and creepy! >:(
*sigh* I look forward to top surgery.

LMAO yes, i've noticed it too.

I use Frog Bra most of the time, now. It's the easiest and most comfortable in that price range for me - works well too. Looking into Underworks items tho - which works best with D cup?
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Call Me Joe

Quote from: Miniar on January 15, 2010, 11:08:45 AM

I wash mine when they're dirty or a little "loose" (which they get after wearing 'em for 3-4 days straight).


I was wondering what that was! I thought it just felt loose because of the dysphoria. Good to know!
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Brynn

I use some t-shirt-style Underworks binders. I couldn't begin to tell you exactly which binders they are, as I got them used from a very amazing trans guy on another site for nothing more than the price of shipping. :) In any case, they work pretty well, I think. They don't make my chest flat flat, even though it's small, but with a shirt or two, possibly a hoodie, it's pretty damn close. I don't think I'd ever double-bind. It's noticeably more difficult to breathe with just the one on.

I love my binders though.
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Adio

Quote from: FolkFanatic on January 15, 2010, 03:56:08 PM
LMAO yes, i've noticed it too.

I use Frog Bra most of the time, now. It's the easiest and most comfortable in that price range for me - works well too. Looking into Underworks items tho - which works best with D cup?

Last time I wore a bra (6 years ago), I was a D cup.  I've only ever used the 997 from underworks and it works very well for me.  I have a minimal "speedbump", but otherwise I'm flat.  This is partially due to the breakdown of my tissue over time plus the binding power of the double front.  When I first started wearing it, my chest was slightly bigger than it is now (I've almost lost weight since then).  YMMV.
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Call Me Joe

#8
Quote from: Adio on January 17, 2010, 02:52:44 AM
Last time I wore a bra (6 years ago...)

Anyone feel really uncomfortable wearing bras? I've only done the binder cos I couldn't imagine wearing a bra to make my chest look flatter. It's middle school all over again--and I'm just old enough for that to start being some vague memory.

What's the difference between the tank tops and the bras?
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no_id

Curious if anyone has ordered out from T-Kingdom. Either way, I plan to order a binder there and will give more info once I get my hands on it.

When it comes to the bra question:
Bra's are shaped for breasts, even the none cupped ones (part of the design is to 'maintain' a (female) chest appearance unlike a binder). Sports bra's tend to work to reduce the appeared size, but require layers (sports bra + top + tank top). There's also 'minimizers' that make breasts look a cup smaller, but they're not stable like sports bra's so jumping is prohibited.
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natures.grace

Just incase anyone has the bright idea like me to try medical tape ya know dollorstore stuff..DONT for the LOVE OF GOD dont. it HURT LIKE BLOODY HELL. This coming from the newb to any other newbs lol. Don't do it dude. Its cheap and sure it will work going on but coming off prepair to scream. *rubs chest* My first binding experiance last night..didnt go well...can you tell? EPIC FAIL

Ethan
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Evan

I've never put my binders through the dryer (Underworks Cotton and Double Front Shirts), but I always put them through the washer on gentle cycle. I'm way to lazy to hand wash.. unless the few times I've showered in the Double Front Binders counts as a hand washing?  ;D
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Ryuu

Quote from: Ethan on January 20, 2010, 11:07:33 PM
Just incase anyone has the bright idea like me to try medical tape ya know dollorstore stuff..DONT for the LOVE OF GOD dont. it HURT LIKE BLOODY HELL. This coming from the newb to any other newbs lol. Don't do it dude. Its cheap and sure it will work going on but coming off prepair to scream. *rubs chest* My first binding experiance last night..didnt go well...can you tell? EPIC FAIL

Ethan

If you remove it slowly and carefully, maybe with the help of adhesive remover or something, there shouldn't be a problem. I've used sports tape to bind so that I could wear an open shirt before - granted that was for cosplaying, not everyday, but it worked really well and I've considered trying it again.
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Al James

Does anyone know the best way to bind and swim or even bind and go to the gym? I've an underworks double compression and it doesn't seem to like going to the gym!
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Adio

Quote from: alex k on January 23, 2010, 07:05:02 PM
Does anyone know the best way to bind and swim or even bind and go to the gym? I've an underworks double compression and it doesn't seem to like going to the gym!

I use the double front from underworks and go jogging with it on.  That's just outside in the winter though.  Do you wear anything under it or is it directly on your skin?  In the summer I wear a tight undershirt underneath it and that solves the problems I have with sweating and stickiness.  If it's the compression and breathing that's causing the difficultly, try a bigger sized binder or one that's worn out.  You may have to wear a tight sports bra or frog bra and layer though if the binder option still doesn't work.

I'm curious about the swimming too.  I'm going to buy a rash guard this summer and want to wear my binder under it.  Will it get wet?  Does chloride and other pool chemicals destroy binders?
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Al James

I had been wearing the binder next to skin but I'll now try with something under it thanx
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Ender

Quote from: Adio on January 23, 2010, 07:51:39 PM
I'm going to buy a rash guard this summer and want to wear my binder under it.  Will it get wet?  Does chloride and other pool chemicals destroy binders?

Chorine destroyed the spandex compression tanks that I used to go swimming in.  The stretchy material woven into the fabric started to separate.  The shirt lost the ability to compress after a while.  I never tried this with an Underworks binder--I have a hunch that chlorine would drastically reduce a binder's useful life, and the things are too expensive.  If you want to try it, keep one binder for regular wearing and one binder for swimming.  Rinse out the binder immediately after swimming in chlorinated water; might help it last for a while longer.
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Between Names

Has anyone else tried swimming/getting in a hot tub or jacuzzi with an Underworks binder on?  My friend is having a party soon and I'm not sure whether or not I should get in the hot tub with my binder on.  Maybe just my old one?  :P

It shouldn't be too bad if I only get it wet with chlorinated water once, right?
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x-icecubes-x

I dont really know what a binder looks like haha, so I typed into google images. I accidentally left out the space between my words, and typed binderbra instead, and look! pictures of you guy came up! :P

http://images.google.com.au/images?gbv=2&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=binderbra&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&start=0
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Elijah3291

Quote from: x-icecubes-x on January 27, 2010, 02:53:07 PM
I dont really know what a binder looks like haha, so I typed into google images. I accidentally left out the space between my words, and typed binderbra instead, and look! pictures of you guy came up! :P

http://images.google.com.au/images?gbv=2&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=binderbra&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&start=0

whoah thats freaky!
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