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Liberals Take Over Your Brain

By Ben Shapiro (Archive) · Wednesday, February 17, 2010

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/ben-shapiro/2010/02/17/liberals-take-over-your-brain/

On a similar note, the DSM has redefined gender identity disorder (GID) -- or rather, they've renamed it. Gender identity disorder is a mental condition where members of one sex think they're in the wrong bodies. The DSM now calls this condition "gender incongruity," explaining that the new term "better reflects the core of the problem: an incongruence between, on the one hand, what identity one experiences and/or expresses and, on the other hand, how one is expected to live based on one's assigned gender."

Clearly, this is propaganda -- gender is not assigned at birth. It is assigned with biology; as scientific studies have amply shown, males and females have significant differences in brain biology. But the DSM isn't concerned with actual science -- they're more concerned with the issue that "many [transgendered people] very clearly indicated their rejection of the GID term because, in their view, it contributes to the stigmatization of their condition." This is inane. Sufferers of a condition do not get to rename that condition at will to spare their feelings. Otherwise, kleptomaniacs would be able to call themselves "friendly borrowers."
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Muffin

wow I didn't pick up on that but it's so true ....hhmmmm
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spacial

QuoteThere was no actual scientific reason to do so -- homosexual men still have higher rates of suicide and depression than heterosexuals, homosexual women still have higher rates of substance abuse, homosexuals are statistically deviant (a crucial issue when discussing normality in any statistical sense), and homosexuals are definitionally incapable of natural reproduction. But due to pressure group influence, homosexuality was out.

Women past menopause are incapable of reproduction. Are they therefore deviant if they remain married?

The issues of suicide are related to the disaffection from society, not homosexuality.

I am homosecual. I am not suicidal.

The point isn't that there was no scientific reason to remove homosexuality, it is that there wa no scientific reason to include it in the first place. It was their for political reasons.

QuoteThe left consistently argues that the right wants to shut down science. But when the left has an agenda, it ignores science at will, whether with regard to global warming, abortion or mental health.

He has a point here, though not the one he thinks.

There is no science of human behaviour. There is no science of mental illness.

The are based upon subjective observations. Observations that are completely incapable of withstanding any scientific, ie control testing.

There is no consistancy in any human behaviour, either in any specific human, nor between humans.

The argument that, with large enough studies, patterns emerge is a nonsense. Put enough monkeys infront of typewriters and eventually one will come up with Shakespeare. That doesn't mean any monkey can read.

Psychology is nothing more than psuedo-religion. Psychologists are quacks.

Therapists are charlitans who take money from the gullable to be professional friends. Prostitutes.

Psychiatrists, at least have proper medical training. But their theories are so varied and numerous as to be effective bunk.

And they are just theories. They have absolutely no basis in any fact, scintific or otherwise.

The entire field exists to control. The small minority who have serious mental illnesses continue to be push to one side as irrelevant.

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Allamakee

Clearly Mr. Shapiro hasn't done any research into the topics he discusses.  For example, the current version of DSM does in fact have a category for individuals who are distressed about their sexual orientation and want psychological assistance: 302.9 Sexual Disorder Not Otherwise Specified.

Yes, gender may very well be assigned by biology, although not as Mr. Shapiro believes.  The past ten years have seen a growing body of research pointing to the biological origin of transsexualism. However, Shapiro isn't concerned with actual science, which is why he didn't bother to do any research.  Instead, he simply wants to blindly promote conservative propaganda, and this is the basis of his article.
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Kendall

First - I am a licensed psychotherapist. I take my profession seriously, read research almost daily and teach at a graduate institution. So I have a personal interest in what I am saying, and some background in this area.

I have learned over the years that although human behavior is very complex, we yearn for simple answers. We also tend to like having an enemy to attack with our simple answers. So the title "Liberals take over your brain" says a lot about the author and the likely level of analysis - which as Zoe Brain points out is overly simple and often erroneous.

Nevertheless, there are some good points, among them being that the DSM is a political document as much or more than a scientific document. And specifically the Diagnosis of trans-people has significant political implications no matter how it is done. Not everything in the DSM is as problematic. Depression, anxiety, and other problems are real. I believe the DSM is at its worst in describing problems that are major social issues as well as personal issues. LGBT issues push many peoples buttons. And, unfortunately, another human tendency is to label anyone who is different as "abnormal."

Spacial, I have read many posts by you and I always appreciate what you have to say. I agree that homosexuality should never have been a diagnosis of abnormality. And I believe the DSM is not going to succeed this time in a satisfactory label for the complexity of Transgender issues.

But I would invite you not to tar all of psychotherapy and therapists with such a broad and negative all-inclusive condemnatory brush. (Unless you meant all of the following as satire. I could not tell.)

 
QuoteTherapists are charlitans who take money from the gullable to be professional friends. Prostitutes.

I have been in practice for 30 years and have participated in helping a large number of people help themselves. I have not managed to get wealthy as i charge a sliding scale fee and hate insurance companies.

QuoteThere is no science of human behaviour. There is no science of mental illness.

The are based upon subjective observations. Observations that are completely incapable of withstanding any scientific, ie control testing.

There is no consistancy in any human behaviour, either in any specific human, nor between humans.

Psychology is nothing more than psuedo-religion. Psychologists are quacks.

Psychiatrists, at least have proper medical training. But their theories are so varied and numerous as to be effective bunk.

And they are just theories. They have absolutely no basis in any fact, scintific or otherwise.

The entire field exists to control. The small minority who have serious mental illnesses continue to be push to one side as irrelevant.

We actually know quite a bit about human behavior - and there is an amazing amount of overlap between theories which are often more similar than different. And there are many solid control group based outcome research results to show that a variety of psychotherapies are as or more effective than many commonly accepted medical treatments - at least with some problems. It is also true that any individual session psychotherapy is a combination of applied scientific understandings, relationship, and some indefinable, maybe spiritual process when it is at its best.

This is not to deny that there are problems with the field - and major problems with the conception and execution of the DSM. I echo the recommendations of many that one has to interview carefully before settling down with one therapist. There are bad therapists. But I assert that there are also good therapists giving good caring services for the money they are paid. There are those of us who strive not for control but to empower.

Looking forward to the next post.

Kendall
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spacial

Kendall

I apologise for not getting back sooner.

I have had to think very carefully about how I could respond. It is important to remember that the majority of the people on this board are Americans and as such, tend to be rather sensitive when any of their cherished notions are affected.

But, after a number of attempts I've come up with this:

Psychologists and therapists are, to all extent and purposes, unreliable quacks with about as much credibility as Voodoo because:

Their training is unregulated.

Their titles are unregulated.

Their practises are unregulated.

Their behaviour is unregulated.

Their ethics are unregulated.

They actively seek out and prostrate themselves to political movements.

They make pronouncements they are clearly unqualified to make. eg. On this forum, a few weeks ago, a poster said his psychologist ordered him to see a psychiatrist because he has psychotic depression.

I have come into contact with a number of these people during my own time working in medicine and before that, social work. They are universally arrogant, stupid, pig headed and completely ignorant of the realities of what mental illness is, what psychosis is, what neurosis is. Without exception their views were governed by the personal relationships they developed with their patients. They lack any semblance of professionalism. Many were unable to perceive any contradiction between their work and satisfying their personal neuroses.

Anyone can set themselves up to be a psychologist or therapist. If you fancy doing so, you can buy a diploma from the Upstairs University of Las Vegas. Act quickly and they may even throw in a doctorate at half price.

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PanoramaIsland

The idea that gender isn't assigned is, IMO, quite ridiculous. Keep in mind that by "gender" I mean the whole social construct - roles, stereotypes and preconceptions, romantic and sexual ideas, conceptions of bodily characteristics, all the baggage that comes with being labeled "male" or "female." Physical sex isn't exactly binary either - it's not as though there are precisely two body types in the world, and all XX people have one, while all XY people have the other. Intersexuality opens up all sorts of interesting questions: on what are we to base our concepts of physical sex? Are we to treat each chromosomal configuration as a sex, thereby making XXY, XYY, XO etc. separate sexes? No reasonable trans person can accept the idea, which most people seem to hold, that genitalia determines gender - but does it determine sex? That would mean that a woman who has her vagina destroyed somehow is no longer a woman - a proposition few would defend. One can go on at great length with such questions.
Nonetheless, we are not assigned our bodily characteristics; we are born with them. However shaky or imprecise the division of bodies into "male" and "female" may seem upon close reading, we are obviously not assigned the sex indicators themselves - those sought-after, feared, leered-over and oft-misunderstood genitalia, breasts, hair-growth patterns etc. that get us lumped in the popular mind into "male" and "female."

That we are assigned our gender is to me undoubted; a doctor pronounces us male or female, often while we are still in the womb, based solely on appearances. Once that pronouncement has been made, we are henceforth saddled with all the gender baggage society has to offer us. Many of the items most of us are given in early childhood are made specifically for either boys or girls; parents are so anxious to have us correctly identified by others that we are color-coded - girl pink, boy blue - and covered in symbols such as skirts and overalls as soon as we are considered old enough. We are treated as though our bodies determine our psychology, and this socializes us to adapt that psychology. As Simone de Beauvoir famously stated, one is not born a woman. One is made a woman.
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spacial

Quote from: PanoramaIsland on February 21, 2010, 03:10:43 AM
. We are treated as though our bodies determine our psychology, and this socializes us to adapt that psychology. As Simone de Beauvoir famously stated, one is not born a woman. One is made a woman.

That's the nub of it really, for us as well as for psychology.

I suggest the solution, however, is to break the stereotypes, rather than single ourselves out as special.

There is no justification for enforcing dress based upon gender. Women have the right to wear trousers.

Few of us seek the limelight. We simply want to live our lives quietly and without fuss, in a manner of our choosing.

We shouldn't need medical justification, nor permission form social guardians. Once we reach the age of majority, we currently assume the right to control our bodies. We can opt for plastic surgery. We can vote. We should be allowed the same access to gender reassignment surgery as we are to any other.
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Miniar

"Their training is unregulated.
Their titles are unregulated.
Their practises are unregulated.
Their behaviour is unregulated.
Their ethics are unregulated."


Maybe where you live, but here, all those things Are regulated.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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spacial

Quote from: Miniar on February 21, 2010, 03:13:28 PM
"Their training is unregulated.
Their titles are unregulated.
Their practises are unregulated.
Their behaviour is unregulated.
Their ethics are unregulated."


Maybe where you live, but here, all those things Are regulated.

I'm sorry Miniar, they are not. Individual groups may regulate to an extent. But essentially, these professions work in an unregulated environment.

The US has a tendency to licience many professions. But that is not the same as peer regulation of training, ethics and process.

Medical Drs, Nurses and such are so regulated.

However, the point I am making is not to attack psychologists and therapists, it is to assert our right as intelegent, free individuals to decide for ourselves what we do with our bodies.

The medical profession is ultimately responsible for the surgical procedures that we seek. Since this is a relitively unusual operation and one with such dramatic and irreversal consequences, they have elected to impose a period of peer counciling by psychiatrists.

That much we have little choice but to accept.

The drafting into this of the irrelevant and intrusive intervention of unregulated, non medical professionals is intolerable.

Eventually, the medical profession will simply need to accept that we are sane individuals who have made a considered choice about our own bodies and lives.

But the presence of psychologists, with their pletoroia of notions based upon little other than their personal intuition and biggotries will remain an unacceptable intrusion into our lives.
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PanoramaIsland

Quote from: spacial on February 21, 2010, 10:55:40 AM
That's the nub of it really, for us as well as for psychology.

I suggest the solution, however, is to break the stereotypes, rather than single ourselves out as special.

There is no justification for enforcing dress based upon gender. Women have the right to wear trousers.

Few of us seek the limelight. We simply want to live our lives quietly and without fuss, in a manner of our choosing.

We shouldn't need medical justification, nor permission form social guardians. Once we reach the age of majority, we currently assume the right to control our bodies. We can opt for plastic surgery. We can vote. We should be allowed the same access to gender reassignment surgery as we are to any other.

I agree completely. If someone wants to conduct themselves in a certain way, or encourage others to do so, that's fine - but that's where it should end. Being trans, like being gay or subscribing to an unusual religion or political viewpoint, is a victimless "crime." Also, I do think that it's important to place ourselves within the broader continuum of different types of humans, not to isolate ourselves as Different.

That being said, I have had two very competent queer- and trans-positive therapists, both of whom are knowledgeable, well-trained and skillful. I know nothing about the regulation of the psychological professions, and I too resent the nanny-handling regarding surgery and am well aware that the DSM is a political document, but I would caution you from taking such a broadly negative stance towards the profession. Like all fields, it has bad apples - but I know the good apples are there, because I've used their services.
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spacial


I understand the point about negativity, but that is more a reflection of my general outlook than an intended image of people.

Especially, in the last 30 or so years, psychologists have been creating, then claiming to treat an increasing number of conditions.

These conditions have become increasingly popular as people adopt them as an explanation for problems they believe they have.

SAD, BDD, ODD are but a few. All seem to have snappy sounding titles and tend to explain, as illnesses, problems which are really just part of life.

Example.

Up till about 4 years ago, many parents of wayward children would obtain, from a psychologist, for a small fee, a diagnosis for their children of ODD. In recent years, courts have been less willing to accept it as any sort of mitigation.

The history of this is interesting.

In the late 80s there lived a family, in a trailer park in Texas. The father was a huge man, almost 6 feet tall, with shoulder about as big. He was known as gruff and aggressive. He had hands like shovels.

His wife was a dumpy woman, about 5 feet tall. Caring of her family and defencive to aggression.

They had 3 sons, an older boy and twins, about 9 years.

Then, one day, the man decides he is a woman and starts to wander around the trailer park wearing a dress.

The family were quickly chased away. The boys were left with the mother's parents, in a fairly nice house, while the parents moved to Chicago.

After almost a year, the boys were sent to Chicago.

They arrived at a large group house, in a run down area, with a banner outside proclaiming Gay Pride.

Needless to say, the boys found themselves fighting with other children, partly because they were outsiders, but also against taunts relating to their parent's lifestyle and their home.

at 11 years, one of the twin boys was caught breaking into a house. He was actually going after another boy who'd been taunting him.

He was summoned to court. Before he went, he was seen by a psychologist who knew and support the local gay, transgendered community. He was given a diagnosis of Obedience Deficit Disorder.

An 11 year old boy, who had been chased off a Texas trailer park, dragged to the other end of the country and who's father wears dresses while looking like a gorilla, is odd!

A few hundred years ago, in Europe, the Church was supreme. The individual priests, had their basic ideas of human reality, which they combined, with their personal comprehension of the local society. They would council and support distressed parishioners, who in turn, would receive considerable benefit. The primary function of the church was to support, guide and nurture local communities.

The medieval priests reformed individuals and society, because their pronouncements were taken as reality. The submission by ordinary people, to the will of the priests, was done, not through fear of penalty, but for the reward of social acceptance, by society as a whole.  For the majority, even minor rejection is sufficient to encourage conformity. This is apparent in the tendency of many young men to join with others in celebrating almost fanatical support and loyality for a sports team. Their collective attitudes toward supporters of opposing teams demonstrates that their entire behaviour is irrational. But failure to participate in this behaviour, at least to the same extent as others, leads to rejection from the peer group. Social conformaty is the membership fee.

This was the basis, of the remarkable success, of the Church, for almost 1000 years, in that it attempted to embrace all the various cultures, within a frame work. A subjective framework, whose strength, was the belief of the parishioners, in the unconditional, reliability and superior understanding of the priests. It is also interesting to note that, this framework, began to break down when, through improved communications, the contradictions, then anomalies, between the different branches, became apparent.

But while it continued, it functioned as intended. Unifying society. People accepted its pronouncements and followed its dictates because these fitted into their perceptions of reality. Control group testing is a modern measure but it is conceivable that it would have produced positive results.

Today, medicine and especially psychologists have replaced the first estate as the moral guardians. They relieve us of any guilt over our personal conduct and failings with snappy diagnoses of mysterious illness.

Most people feel depressed in winter. It's generally cold and wet limiting opportunities to socialise, to be creative and be alone. Fresh foods are limited. The shortening days undoubtedly have an affect upon all of us. Together with the stupid custom of altering clocks, we often feel tired, a little depressed and a little miserable.

Yet psychologists have come up with a snappy sounding illness for this. SAD. Seasonal Affective Disorder.

If you stop and think about it, what these people are really doing is making fun of us.

This isn't science. This is an utter joke.
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PanoramaIsland

I am well aware that the compulsive pathologisation can get a bit out of hand, and that psychology and psychiatry can be used as a form of moral guardianship. However, the solution to this is to empower and educate the consumers of mental health and mental modification services, instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Psychiatry malpractice and ill-conceived treatment have certainly messed people up in the past, and I think that it has a long way to come (as does all medicine, but psych especially). However, it has done many good things as well. There are some "disorders" and treatments that are rather specious - ex-gay therapy, Dr. Kenneth Zucker's infamous gender-binarization therapy for children, and "sex addiction" therapy among others. Some diagnoses can seem a bit trivial - ODD and SAD - but these things are a matter of the context in which they happen. I lived in Western Washington State for 3 years, where it's overcast and rainy nearly year-round. Since I had serious depression to begin with, the SAD was a big deal - it pushed my depression to an unbearable level.

Psychiatry is imperfect and hardly "scientific" in the sense that, say, quantum physics or biology are scientific, but at least it tries; anti-psych reasoning can get to be a bit like the reasoning for "alternative medicine" - "The medical system is all ->-bleeped-<-ed up, so all traditional Western medicine is garbage and we should use completely illogical and mystical or pseudo-mystical treatments like homeopathy and energy healing instead. By the way, cancer can be cured by regular exercise and a diet of fruits and vegetables!"
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Flan

unregulated? tell that to every lazy doc and nurse who doesn't want to do their CME credits. (but at the risk of losing their license) :P
Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur. Happy kitty, sleepy kitty, purr, purr, purr.
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Kendall

This is an interesting series of comments. I agree mostly with PanoramaIsland, and appreciate their reasoning. I do not agree with Spacial, but I also appreciate her reasoning.

I will point out that Spacial talks about Psychology as a monolith, and maybe it seems like that to others, but to me there seems not to be that much agreement in the field. And some of us psychotherapists are very much into counter-culture, cultural change, a more inclusive gender analysis, a greater appreciation for and enhancement of diversity, openess to social change and empowerment of individuals and small communities. Of course I am in California, which has a lot of very liberal people - and actually a lot of regulation of psychotherapy for that matter. And I am not a "Psychologist," I am a Marriage and Family Therapist.

Additionally, my specialty is treatment of domestic violence and trauma. I treat both survivors and the people who are abusive. We do not let people who are abusive blame others, make lame excuses or minimize the damage they do. We balance holding people accountable and helping them learn a different way to deal with life that does not hurt others or themselves. Psychotherapy as I practice it uses scientific research where it exists and is applicable, but I also use Buddhist philosophy and simple common sense. I use the DSM as little as possible, as I find it has limited utility in understanding or helping people. There are therapists and theoretical orientations I totally disagree with.

I love your picture FlanHusky. It made me smile.

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spacial

Kendall.

It is true, many psychologists are into a variety of approaches, from crowd pleasers, politically sensitive notions to alternatives and counter culture.

How nice for us mere mortals that these demi-gods should grace us with such efforts. Their mere presence within each of these circles validates each of us who are also there. (Sarcasm).

Their qualification to take such a social high ground?

Panorama.

I think you've missed the point.

We have no choice. There will always be a first estate, a moral estate. If common sense prevails, this will be separate from the second, as it is in Europe and China.

We appoint the first estate by our preparedness to accept them as our intellectual and social superiors. If you read Swift it becomes obvious that we actually appoint all our superiors. Dictators exist because we like being pushed around.

However, the point I am making is that the intelligent among us can be aware of these realities, as intelligent people have always done.

We don't need to submit ourselves to the variable of these guardians of public morals except where it suits us.

There will always be people in society who need extra leadership. People to tell them what to do. The people who get their electricity cut off then buy a battery TV. The people who buy tabloids. The people who waste their brains and lives on drugs and alcohol.

But we can rise above this simple because we have the intelligence to be aware of it and not need someone to tell us what to think.

If we are compelled to use a psychologist then we play the part. We recite the required nonsense. We pay the appropriate fee.

But these people, to us, because we are intelligent, are simply vendors, selling a product. They deserve no more gratitude and respect than someone selling a bar of chocolate.
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Miniar

Discussing the validity of therapists and psychiatrists is one thing, but suggesting that in order to take the profession seriously you have to be an alcoholic or a drug addict and/or at the very least, unintelligent is an entirely different thing.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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spacial

Quote from: Miniar on February 23, 2010, 06:26:18 AM
Discussing the validity of therapists and psychiatrists is one thing, but suggesting that in order to take the profession seriously you have to be an alcoholic or a drug addict and/or at the very least, unintelligent is an entirely different thing.

It certainly is.

But I am not aware of anyone say that.

Can you describe this person? Have they had any serious help?
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Flan

diagnoses are just labels to behaviour deemed abnormal.
the mental health professional is only as good as their training, experience, and personal beliefs.
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out stuff happens in the clinician-client relationship, both are human and prone to screwing up.

I went to a therapist initially just for surgery letters, but are now dealing with things I would have likely never worked on by myself, that's just how things go.

Quote from: spacial on February 23, 2010, 07:28:22 AM
Can you describe this person? Have they had any serious help?

all mental health professionals as part of clinicals undergo psychotherapy themselves.
Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur. Happy kitty, sleepy kitty, purr, purr, purr.
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JillEclipse

Sounds like another mindless conservative rant. He thinks homosexuals are mentally ill, because they have higher suicide rates substance abuse etc. But he misplaces the causality. Homosexuals have higher suicide rates because of PEOPLE LIKE HIM. Not because of mental illness.
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